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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    I still think the best wheeze would be to set up a bogus college in your spare bedroom then get your wife in on a "student" visa. It obviously works as between June and August 2009 the British High Commissions in Mumbai, New Delhi and Dhaka issued 19950 "student" visas.
    To be able to sponsor a student visa you need to become a licensed education provider, and though as I guess some 'bogus' colleges have got licenses it would be possible to get a license it seems a lot of effort to go through. Especially as if they did perform any sort of inspection (which they are likely to if you only sponsored one student...) you'd fail it.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    I'm looking into starting a ltd company because I have some marketable abilities anyway. I can just put in a directors loan in the mean time and I have payslips, all the while, I can have a vehicle to put my marketable skills into! Hmmm, I think it's worth doing if the interview doesn't end well for me on Tuesday. Kind of a Plan B.
    If you can genuinely get a company up and running that can have enough turnover in the first month or so to pay yourself a salary, then that sounds a good plan.

    If though you are planning to start a company just to move your own money in and out of to pretend you have a income then I would think very carefully before going down that path. In my mind that is trying to obtain a visa through deception, which if caught could result in a long ban for your wife.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    In my mind that is trying to obtain a visa through deception, which if caught could result in a long ban for your wife.
    one of a few ways a spouse can face a ban is by trying to obtain a visa using deception.

    if your fiancee is refused. appeal if you think you have good evidence to over turn it, else re-apply with stronger evidence or get wed.

    it's not worth wasting your time on other ways, when it might cause even more problems

    have you lived in the phils with your fiancée ? if so for how long ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    In my mind that is trying to obtain a visa through deception, which if caught could result in a long ban for your wife.
    one of a few ways a spouse can face a ban is by trying to obtain a visa using deception.

    if your fiancée is refused. appeal if you think you have good evidence to over turn it, else re-apply with stronger evidence or get wed.

    it's not worth wasting your time on other ways, when it might cause even more problems

    have you lived in the phils with your fiancée ? if so for how long ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    one of a few ways a spouse can face a ban is by trying to obtain a visa using deception.

    if your fiancée is refused. appeal if you think you have good evidence to over turn it, else re-apply with stronger evidence or get wed.

    it's not worth wasting your time on other ways, when it might cause even more problems

    have you lived in the phils with your fiancée ? if so for how long ?
    Hi Joe. Actually I am married, and we lived together for a year, and just over 10 of those months we were married.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    Hi Joe. Actually I am married, and we lived together for a year, and just over 10 of those months we were married.
    sorry i got you mixed up with someone else

    If the sponsor (co-sponsor) is self-employed, owns his own company, or if the sponsor (co-sponsor) does not work, then the employment contract and P60 can be substituted with certified copies of the previous two years' tax returns accompanied by a notarized version of his business accounts.

    if i was you, i would accept the first job your offered, get at least 3 pay slips and apply for a spouse visa,

    can you live with your parents ? and would they write a letter to sponsor your wife's accommodation ? so you wouldn't need to pay rent.

    you have enough savings,
    you've been married a while so the embassy should not say your relationship is not genuine,

    so you just need a place for her to live (if you haven't already) and a job


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    sorry i got you mixed up with someone else

    If the sponsor (co-sponsor) is self-employed, owns his own company, or if the sponsor (co-sponsor) does not work, then the employment contract and P60 can be substituted with certified copies of the previous two years' tax returns accompanied by a notarized version of his business accounts.

    if i was you, i would accept the first job your offered, get at least 3 pay slips and apply for a spouse visa,

    can you live with your parents ? and would they write a letter to sponsor your wife's accommodation ? so you wouldn't need to pay rent.

    you have enough savings,
    you've been married a while so the embassy should not say your relationship is not genuine,

    so you just need a place for her to live (if you haven't already) and a job

    Hi Joe, I own my house - outright, no mortgage.

    All I need now is the job! I'll accept the first offer i get, it's just getting that bloomin offer now ... it used to be a lot easier than this ... but thanks to the crunch, and it's very difficult now


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    Hi Joe, I own my house - outright, no mortgage.
    Another BIG plus factor ... no doubt about that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    All I need now is the job! I'll accept the first offer i get, it's just getting that bloomin offer now ... :
    ... let's see what tomorrow's interview brings ... you never know your luck!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... let's see what tomorrow's interview brings ... you never know your luck!

    Well, I just got a confirmation call, there are 6 people shortlisted for this team leader role job tomorrow ... and there will be 3 definite job offers made (so I got 50% chance of getting a job) ... and then if there are 4 or 5 good candidates who get a good enough score, then they may be willing to open up a few extra posts.

    It's a very cash rich company who can do that sort of thing.

    Thanks everyone for your wonderful encouragement. I really appreciate everything.

    As for owning my own house ... that's how I was able to live in the Philippines for a year - I had tennants.

    But now, I'm back living in my house. It's a 4 bedroom house that's fairly spacious. I am very priveleged - at my age - to own this.

    This means that even if I do eventually end up with a job that doesn't pay a huge amount, my living expenses are really small.

    Own house, no mortgage, Own car - no monthly payments, cheap insurance, cheap to fuel. It'll be a beautiful life when I have my job and my wife here, then ... life will be great we need NOTHING else

    Again, thanks to everyone for the help and the nice words



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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    ... *it used to be a lot easier than this ... but thanks to the crunch, and it's very difficult now
    I'll grant you *THAT! Now then, Mister 'ubbard ... [as they'd say in Yorkshire] ... when I were t'age you are, there was nowt stoppin' a young un wi' bit o'ambition! Alas, times 'ave changed:

    Apart from the "crunch", the past four decades have witnessed hitherto almost unbelievable advances in technology ... thereby doing away with jobs previously carried out by skilled/semi-skilled - and, particularly, unskilled labour. Lump this together with the various *incentives offered by successive governments - *actively encouraging an upsurge in the number of married women returning to the workplace ... immediately following statutory maternity leave - and it can be easily seen WHY there are far fewer opportunities available.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post


    If you can genuinely get a company up and running that can have enough turnover in the first month or so to pay yourself a salary, then that sounds a good plan.

    If though you are planning to start a company just to move your own money in and out of to pretend you have a income then I would think very carefully before going down that path. In my mind that is trying to obtain a visa through deception, which if caught could result in a long ban for your wife.

    If some of the money that goes through the business is from a directors loan, then I don't see how it's deceptive. I see it as investing money into the business that is later paid as salary. It's really not like recycling money. Although, I do have a few people interested in a business I have been thinking of setting up. Only a few people though.

    Maybe I should start my company with a directors' loan, and then, when the company's funds are low, I can loan to the company again, until it gets on its feet.

    Meanwhile, I shall still be able to draw a salary and add to my savings.

    Does that sound sensible?


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    If some of the money that goes through the business is from a directors loan, then I don't see how it's deceptive. I see it as investing money into the business that is later paid as salary. It's really not like recycling money. Although, I do have a few people interested in a business I have been thinking of setting up. Only a few people though.

    Maybe I should start my company with a directors' loan, and then, when the company's funds are low, I can loan to the company again, until it gets on its feet.

    Meanwhile, I shall still be able to draw a salary and add to my savings.

    Does that sound sensible?
    I tend to side with jb on the deception angle, none of these ideas are new and it would be common knowledge if it was a winnable method. I think they would view it as a sham company and start asking for evidence of trading, business bank accounts (try opening one it's not easy), statements from Accountants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    I tend to side with jb on the deception angle, none of these ideas are new and it would be common knowledge if it was a winnable method. I think they would view it as a sham company and start asking for evidence of trading, business bank accounts (try opening one it's not easy), statements from Accountants.

    Thanks Joe, Darren and Dedworth.

    so it's probably not worth it is what you're telling me?

    ....

    well, it was worth thinking about

    thanks for your advice so far. I love this forum


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    Thanks Joe, Darren and Dedworth.

    so it's probably not worth it is what you're telling me?
    Only my opinion James - god luck in the battle against officialdom


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