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    Quote Originally Posted by yorkie View Post
    when my wife applied, my bank statements showed an overdraft allowance of £750, some months I used nearly all of it. It was accepted, I assume that provided you have income and are not bankrupt or show constant deficit in the account that it is accepted as reasonable, but as there are no published guidelines we can only assume and guess.
    well luck could have been on your side, one of the reasons used for a refusal is sending bank statements which show your over drawn. its better not to

    they could say. how can you support your spouse, when you can hardly support yourself ?


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    To be perfectly honest, I shouldn't imagine any one of the contributors to this particular thread has anything to worry themselves about in the slightest. All of them are now married ... and the Authorities would need a damn good reason to separate husband & wife purely on the basis of a sudden and unexpected downturn in their financial circumstances.

    Heavens above! ... if EVEN convicted criminals are able to exercise their so-called "human rights" [and they do] on the feeblest of excuses [and win!] - how much MORE, a lawfully-wedded couple!!


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    question: you sent your visa application on 1st of feb...you got recorded proof of the postage, but it hasn't been received yet by UKBA until now (17th of Feb), then your fiancee visa expires tomorrow (18th of Feb)... what is your status then?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Florge View Post
    question: you sent your visa application on 1st of feb...you got recorded proof of the postage, but it hasn't been received yet by UKBA until now (17th of Feb), then your fiancee visa expires tomorrow (18th of Feb)... what is your status then?
    I imagine so long as you have postage proof you should be safe enough..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Florge View Post
    question: you sent your visa application on 1st of feb...you got recorded proof of the postage, but it hasn't been received yet by UKBA until now (17th of Feb), then your fiancee visa expires tomorrow (18th of Feb)... what is your status then?
    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    I imagine so long as you have postage proof you should be safe enough..
    with what Kenny says, Florge ... YOU'VE done YOUR bit by sending the application by 'Recorded Delivery' ... which is, in itself, ADEQUATE *proof. Still, it's frustrating having had to wait so long for *it! All the best, my friend ... and don't fret ... everything will be fine, I promise you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Florge View Post
    question: you sent your visa application on 1st of feb...you got recorded proof of the postage, but it hasn't been received yet by UKBA until now (17th of Feb), then your fiancee visa expires tomorrow (18th of Feb)... what is your status then?
    I don't think your status is a problem for the moment, but if your passport really has gone missing in the post you need to sort out the problem immediately. What do you mean by recorded proof of the postage? There are three options in the UK which are proof of posting (free), recorded signed for (cheap), or special delivery (expensive) - which did you use? Though to be honest it is not advisable to use anything but special delivery when posting passports/visa applications.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    I imagine so long as you have postage proof you should be safe enough..
    , so when you send it, keep evidence of posting it

    one reason for the delay is, the HO get 1000s of letters/apps a day, so it could take days for the PO system to show that they have received it.


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    sent it as recorded signed-for mail... got a confirmation letter from the Home Office today.. just waiting now for the letter re biometrics...

    seems like the post office tracking system hasn't been updated to state that my mail reached the home office... got me worried there as it has been 7 working days from the time i sent it...

    by the way, the question was suppose to be hypothetical.. lol.. how'd you guess i was describing my case? genius! LOL... my fiance visa expires on 1st of March so i'm not overstaying or anything... thanks guys!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Florge View Post
    by the way, the question was suppose to be hypothetical.. lol.. how'd you guess i was describing my case? genius! LOL... my fiance visa expires on 1st of March so i'm not overstaying or anything... thanks guys!
    ... pure assumption ... rather than 'genius' ... on MY part, Florge!


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    LOL@Arthur


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    Quote Originally Posted by Florge View Post
    sent it as recorded signed-for mail... got a confirmation letter from the Home Office today.. just waiting now for the letter re biometrics...

    seems like the post office tracking system hasn't been updated to state that my mail reached the home office... got me worried there as it has been 7 working days from the time i sent it...

    by the way, the question was suppose to be hypothetical.. lol.. how'd you guess i was describing my case? genius! LOL... my fiance visa expires on 1st of March so i'm not overstaying or anything... thanks guys!
    like i said, it takes longer to showup on the tracking system, becuase they can get 1,000s of letter a day, and it takes time to go thru their system because of the quantites (well thats what the guy at the P/O to me )

    you have something called Section 3C protection. That is, as long as the application is made before the expiry of the old visa, that old visa will be "treated as continuing" until the application for a new visa is decided, even though its stated expiry date has passed.

    The Section 3C protection will continue until the visa application is agreed and the new visa issued, or even if the application is rejected, until the time for appealing against that rejection has expired. And as long as an appeal is made, the Section 3C protection will then continue until the appeal hearing, etc..


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    Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is an 'FLR' Visa?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrako View Post
    Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is an 'FLR' Visa?
    further leave to remain (2 years validity) after 6 month visa(fiancee,spouse-visa)


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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    further leave to remain (2 years validity) after 6 month visa(fiancee,spouse-visa)
    So once married how long before we apply for an FLR? Also is the Fiancee visa only valid for 6 months?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrako View Post
    So once married how long before we apply for an FLR? Also is the Fiancee visa only valid for 6 months?
    You can apply for FLR immediately after you get married if you want. You must though apply before the fiancee visa expires which is only valid for 6 months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    You can apply for FLR immediately after you get married if you want. You must though apply before the fiancee visa expires which is only valid for 6 months.
    So once we apply for the FLR how long should we expect for that to come through? I am taking it that we need to meet the same financial criteria for the FLR as we did for the fiancee visa.


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    for postal application which is £465 around 3 months, in premium £665 one day only then three months bank statement is needed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrako View Post
    So once we apply for the FLR how long should we expect for that to come through? I am taking it that we need to meet the same financial criteria for the FLR as we did for the fiancee visa.
    ideally yes, but if your working and none of your bank statements are over drawn you should be ok , but you will probably reduce your risks of refusal if you have some savings...

    have you thought about get married in the phils instead of a fiancee visa.?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    ideally yes, but if your working and none of your bank statements are over drawn you should be ok , but you will probably reduce your risks of refusal if you have some savings...

    have you thought about get married in the phils instead of a fiancee visa.?
    I have thought about that but figure that can have a cheap wedding here just so that we can apply for her to stay here for 2 years and then once we have saved properly we can have a proper wedding in the PI. If we were to marry now on Phils it will initially be more expensive and take longer for her to come here due to my limited savings.

    Could you give the plus side for us to get married in the PI?


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    plus side in marrying in the phils: she has her family with her which is what all brides want i guess and it is cheaper...

    i got married here, and my wedding is very low key.. we had a church wedding and just had a simple buffet in a pub after with just family and close friends.. the amount we spent in our wedding here could be a grand wedding in the phils..

    it is a bit lonely though to march along the aisle with my brother-in-law instead of my father... but, we opted for the fiancee visa route for the sheer reason that the 6 months will give us time to guage if we can live together and if i can live here in the uk...

    the phil wedding though will happen soon, so we're saving up for that...

    good luck to you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrako View Post
    I have thought about that but figure that can have a cheap wedding here just so that we can apply for her to stay here for 2 years and then once we have saved properly we can have a proper wedding in the PI. If we were to marry now on Phils it will initially be more expensive and take longer for her to come here due to my limited savings.

    Could you give the plus side for us to get married in the PI?
    plus side is

    a wedding in the phils is a lot cheaper than the UK.

    if you marry in the phils and apply for a spouse visa, your fiancée shouldn't need to apply for FLR in the uk, saving you nearly £500.

    also saving you the hassle, time and collecting evidence of applying for FLR

    also once in the UK she can look for a job and start work straight away, while on a fiancée visa she can not start work until your married and she has FLR ( could be from what 2 months upto 9 months wait , depending on when you marry and how long it takes to process the FLR) so if you was on a spouse visa and she was lucky to find some work in a month instead of having to wait for flr.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    plus side is

    a wedding in the phils is a lot cheaper than the UK..
    A wedding in the phils is better value, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it would be cheaper. Big wedding in the Phils with loads (and it could be loads...) of family and friends could cost more than small wedding in the UK as you can get married very cheaply in the UK.

    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    if you marry in the phils and apply for a spouse visa, your fiancée shouldn't need to apply for FLR in the uk, saving you nearly £500. .
    But getting married in the Philippines would require you to make an extra trip to the Philippines which is likely to cost you at at least £500 just in travelling costs.

    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    also saving you the hassle, time and collecting evidence of applying for FLR
    FLR is the easiest to apply for, and even with a spouse visa you need to start collecting evidence for ILR immediately anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    also once in the UK she can look for a job and start work straight away, while on a fiancée visa she can not start work until your married and she has FLR ( could be from what 2 months upto 9 months wait , depending on when you marry and how long it takes to process the FLR) so if you was on a spouse visa and she was lucky to find some work in a month instead of having to wait for flr.
    But getting married in the Philippines relies on you making a longish (at least 2 weeks?) trip to the Philippines which depending on work could delay you for longer. Maybe it's just me but when my wife (then my fiancee) came to the UK which was her first visit to another country (especially as it was winter...) I wouldn't have wanted her to work immediately even if she was allowed to.

    Swings and roundabouts....


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    A wedding in the phils is better value, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it would be cheaper. Big wedding in the Phils with loads (and it could be loads...) of family and friends could cost more than small wedding in the UK as you can get married very cheaply in the UK.



    But getting married in the Philippines would require you to make an extra trip to the Philippines which is likely to cost you at at least £500 just in travelling costs.



    FLR is the easiest to apply for, and even with a spouse visa you need to start collecting evidence for ILR immediately anyway.



    But getting married in the Philippines relies on you making a longish (at least 2 weeks?) trip to the Philippines which depending on work could delay you for longer. Maybe it's just me but when my wife (then my fiancee) came to the UK which was her first visit to another country (especially as it was winter...) I wouldn't have wanted her to work immediately even if she was allowed to.

    Swings and roundabouts....
    nope disagree, applying for FLR is still a pain in the nearly the same as applying for ILR.

    i would rather spend £500 on an airticket to the phils than give it the HO for your FLR

    so what if he needs 2wks in the phils (why 2wks ?? ) , with his wife in the uk, he probably not be leaving the uk again this year anyway.

    avergae cost of a uk wedding is £20k , now tell me what you could get for that in the phils , my wedding in the phils didn't even come to £2k (yes that was 7yrs ago thou)

    as for work, i think money is a bit of a problem for him, so the sooner his wife starts work the better. at least she will not have to wait up to 9 months b4 she can start work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    nope disagree, applying for FLR is still a pain in the nearly the same as applying for ILR.

    i would rather spend £500 on an airticket to the phils than give it the HO for your FLR

    so what if he needs 2wks in the phils (why 2wks ?? ) , with his wife in the uk, he probably not be leaving the uk again this year anyway.

    avergae cost of a uk wedding is £20k , now tell me what you could get for that in the phils , my wedding in the phils didn't even come to £2k (yes that was 7yrs ago thou)

    as for work, i think money is a bit of a problem for him, so the sooner his wife starts work the better. at least she will not have to wait up to 9 months b4 she can start work.
    FLR is hardly complex and the big difference is you may only have to collect an extra month or so paperwork over what you needed for the fiancee visa.

    I might be wrong but I didn't think you could land in the Philippines and get married the following day - you had to be there for a while.

    You totally missed by point about the cost of a wedding. You don't have to spend £20K, and it is possible to have a very cheap wedding in the UK, probably less than £200. I bet very few 'foreigners' have got away with a wedding that cheap in the Philippines...

    And it terms of timescales yes it could take up to 9 months with a fiancee visa to get FLR, but then again she could get married in the UK and have FLR within 3 weeks of getting the fiancee visa if you really wanted.


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    well, my wedding here costs less than £3000 for everything.. and i mean, everything... but then, we bought our rings in the Phils, as well as had my gown made there too, so that kept the cost really low... made the invitation, wedding program and wedding favours myself.. did my bouquet myself so i saved a whole lot from flowers since the bridal bouquet cost starts at £60... just had a buffet at 3pm so i didn't have to feed my guests so much... but had around 20 types of dishes on the buffet table... heck! i wasn't able to have any food on my wedding! ...hehehe...


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    FLR is hardly complex and the big difference is you may only have to collect an extra month or so paperwork over what you needed for the fiancee visa.

    I might be wrong but I didn't think you could land in the Philippines and get married the following day - you had to be there for a while.

    You totally missed by point about the cost of a wedding. You don't have to spend £20K, and it is possible to have a very cheap wedding in the UK, probably less than £200. I bet very few 'foreigners' have got away with a wedding that cheap in the Philippines...

    And it terms of timescales yes it could take up to 9 months with a fiancee visa to get FLR, but then again she could get married in the UK and have FLR within 3 weeks of getting the fiancee visa if you really wanted.
    no visa app is complex , you can be refused FLR just like any other visa , thou not many are refused FLR or ILR. but it's still a visa, and your having to watch your bank statements for at least 3 months.

    as long as things are arranged before hand, then i don't see why you can't get married the next day

    i didn't miss the point at all about weddings , yes you can spend £200 here, but my stepson is getting married soon in the phils, cost of the judge and ceremony a few 1000 php if that


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