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    FLR question

    Guys/girls...

    Obviously when you apply for a fiancee visa, your accounts, money situation
    must be "healthy".

    ..... and it's assumed when also applying for the FLR

    BUT... has anyone, or do you know of anyone who was REFUSED a FLR
    because of a change in their finances ?
    ie, continuous overdrafts, loss of employment ??????

    Thanks
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    Hi Bluebirdjones,

    How are you??? That's what im worried also coz my finace has 1 overdraft ( £30 ) in his account, will file FLR also by Feb, will it affect the application???By the way im also from Kent Chatham, so nice to know someone from Kent.

    Anyone from here who can give us advices about this. Thanks.


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    No personal experience, but as the insist you provide evidence that you can support yourself I would have thought they could refuse you because of lack of finances. Otherwise why would they bother asking for the evidence?


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    Darren

    ... true, as you say, they do ask for supporting "evidence", and refusal is an option,
    but how strict are they ?

    At present it takes either 1 day or 3 mnths to process your FLR, depending on
    payment options.
    The 1 day option can be nothing more than a cursory glance at the docs, and
    it seems that when your postal application gets to the top of the pile, that also
    gets a limited viewing.

    So, again the question is repeated..... how strict are they ?

    Would love to hear from anyone who was either refused the FLR, or applied when
    their personal circumstances had changed... ie no job, unemployed, overdrawn
    on their bank statements etc, and the ultimate outcome.

    Thks
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    It wouldn't take them that long to review the evidence given and decide whether it needs further investigation. What they are looking for is the ability to live without additional public funds. So if you have no job and growing debts you are very likely to have problems renewing a visa.


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    i think they would find it hard to refused you have got married you are entitled to work as soon as you place your application for FLR ... YOU WOULD HAVE VERY STRONG human rights appeal as you are married ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan47 View Post
    i think they would find it hard to refused you have got married you are entitled to work as soon as you place your application for FLR ... YOU WOULD HAVE VERY STRONG human rights appeal as you are married ...


    j and a
    You mean like they would never deport (or at least attempt to..) a spouse who didn't renew their visa (ILR, etc) or tried to renew it late? I have news for you, they do. The human rights approach doesn't always work either, you can live together, just not in the UK.

    If you get a refusal it may cost you a lot of money to fight.


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    bluebirdjones and evo76!!!! im from pepperhill! we are almost neighbors!


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    You mean like they would never deport (or at least attempt to..) a spouse who didn't renew their visa (ILR, etc) or tried to renew it late? I have news for you, they do. The human rights approach doesn't always work either, you can live together, just not in the UK.
    I think the point Bluebird is trying to establish here, Darren, is ... does anyone actually KNOW of an instance where a person has been refused extension of their leave to remain in the UK ... irrespective of whether it be FLR or ILR ... due to a sudden and unexpected change of financial circumstances on the part of the sponsor?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    I think the point Bluebird is trying to establish here, Darren, is ... does anyone actually KNOW of an instance where a person has been refused extension of their leave to remain in the UK ... irrespective of whether it be FLR or ILR?
    I could point you at another forum where there are cases of people (including spouses of British citizens) who have been refused FLR/ILR for various reasons including lack of finances.


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    most people do not get refused flr/ilr

    i can't recall anyone on here being refused FLR or ILR especially if your'e married to a brit


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    Yeah we're just neighbours...nice to know you Eula ;-), hope we could chat sometime.
    Reg- FLR..I think Darren got a point there...as long as you dont rely on public funds your application will be fine.

    Question: What are usually the reasons for denial in FLR application???


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    reasons are

    qualifying period - not being in the uk 2 years (- up to 28 days, but their not as strict on this since spouse visa's are now valid for 27 months).

    deception, using false papers and telling lies.

    not supplying the 'life in the uk' cert, or other evidence your asked for, but they may give you sometime to send these before they reject your app or they might consider your app on the evidence you've supplied - which could well end up as a refusal.

    not paying the fee, lack of funds - but again, i think they may give you time to send it, or tell you to re-apply (problem is your visa might have expired by now)

    accommodation - over crowded etc

    maintenance - lack of funds.

    recourse to public funds - claiming what you should not have


    less than 1 in 20 ilr apps for a spouse visa is refused.

    so it should not be anything to worry about


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    most people do not get refused flr/ilr

    i can't recall anyone on here being refused FLR or ILR especially if your'e married to a brit
    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    reasons are

    qualifying period - not being in the uk 2 years (- up to 28 days, but their not as strict on this since spouse visa's are now valid for 27 months).

    deception, using false papers and telling lies.

    not supplying the 'life in the uk' cert, or other evidence your asked for, but they may give you sometime to send these before they reject your app or they might consider your app on the evidence you've supplied - which could well end up as a refusal.

    not paying the fee, lack of funds - but again, i think they may give you time to send it, or tell you to re-apply (problem is your visa might have expired by now)

    accommodation - over crowded etc

    maintenance - lack of funds.

    recourse to public funds - claiming what you should not have


    less than 1 in 20 ilr apps for a spouse visa is refused.

    so it should not be anything to worry about
    Applying late after the visa has expired is the other one

    Can't remember anyone on here being refused either, but it does happen. It shouldn't be anything to worry about normally, but if you are in a position where they wouldn't have granted the visa for entry to the UK (which has happened on here) or felt that you couldn't apply for a visa (which happens on here too) then you could be at risk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    Applying late after the visa has expired is the other one

    Can't remember anyone on here being refused either, but it does happen. It shouldn't be anything to worry about normally, but if you are in a position where they wouldn't have granted the visa for entry to the UK (which has happened on here) or felt that you couldn't apply for a visa (which happens on here too) then you could be at risk.
    how long should someone apply for FLR before the financee visa is due to expire? i am just wondering cus ive ordered some copies of bank statements today and they will take six working days the visa expires on March 7

    Any advice on applying for FLR visa is very appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    how long should someone apply for FLR before the financee visa is due to expire? i am just wondering cus ive ordered some copies of bank statements today and they will take six working days the visa expires on March 7

    Any advice on applying for FLR visa is very appreciated.
    You are allowed to post your application or apply in person on the day your visa expires (though obviously it is better if you don't leave it that late). So you should be fine.


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    hi there!

    your still be fine, ideally one month before the fiancee visa expires.. Just make sure you apply FLR before it the current expires. ARe you applying by post or premium?


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    Quote Originally Posted by abby View Post
    hi there!

    your still be fine, ideally one month before the fiancee visa expires.. Just make sure you apply FLR before it the current expires. ARe you applying by post or premium?
    Thanks, applying by post cus strangely enough its less expensive by post.
    its a nervous time again, also my finances are not looking as good as before applying for fiancee visa, due to christmas and the wedding and then paying my tax. I was overdrawn once, not so much maybe 16 pound over drawn due to not depositing money,


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    only 3 months bank statement is needed... If that 3 months include tyour overdrawn and your applying by post better provide a letter explaining your overdrawn just to be safe.

    I just recenlty apply for FLR in premium, its expensive but i dont want to wait for 3 months doing nothing at home..

    Goodluck to the visa application...


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    Quote Originally Posted by abby View Post
    only 3 months bank statement is needed... If that 3 months include tyour overdrawn and your applying by post better provide a letter explaining your overdrawn just to be safe.

    I just recenlty apply for FLR in premium, its expensive but i dont want to wait for 3 months doing nothing at home..

    Goodluck to the visa application...
    thanks again
    My wife is nearly 9 weeks pregnant so she is in no rush to start working


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    You are allowed to post your application or apply in person on the day your visa expires (though obviously it is better if you don't leave it that late). So you should be fine.
    Thanks


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    Same situation with Kenny and my husband's bank statements, it has overdrawn for 3 months for about not more tha 30pounds due to christmas and wedding expenses, but we still filed our FLR application by post last FEB 1 with no letter explaining the overdrawns, now i receive letter from them that they received already my aplication will inform me for the next step...crossing my fingers..hope everything went well...been praying the Holy Rosary for this. Kenny Goodluck...


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    Quote Originally Posted by evo76 View Post
    Same situation with Kenny and my husband's bank statements, it has overdrawn for 3 months for about not more tha 30pounds due to christmas and wedding expenses, but we still filed our FLR application by post last FEB 1 with no letter explaining the overdrawns, now i receive letter from them that they received already my aplication will inform me for the next step...crossing my fingers..hope everything went well...been praying the Holy Rosary for this. Kenny Goodluck...
    Good luck, i will look out for your progress.


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    congrats kenny and to your wife for the baby to come....


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    Quote Originally Posted by evo76 View Post
    Same situation with Kenny and my husband's bank statements, it has overdrawn for 3 months for about not more tha 30pounds due to christmas and wedding expenses, but we still filed our FLR application by post last FEB 1 with no letter explaining the overdrawns, now i receive letter from them that they received already my aplication will inform me for the next step...crossing my fingers..hope everything went well...been praying the Holy Rosary for this. Kenny Goodluck...
    Quote Originally Posted by abby View Post
    congrats kenny and to your wife for the baby to come....
    salamat Abby


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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    thanks again
    My wife is nearly 9 weeks pregnant so she is in no rush to start working
    congrats..

    you shouldn't have a problem, most of the hard work was done getting your fiancée or spouse visa.

    just explain in your letter of support that you was overdrawn because of the wedding


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    congrats..

    you shouldn't have a problem, most of the hard work was done getting your fiancée or spouse visa.

    just explain in your letter of support that you was overdrawn because of the wedding
    Thanks


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    when we applied for FLR visa before we havent got any money in the bank (the bank statement that we gave was not that good!) but it was approved. i think they only check if you have a regular income that obviously will reflect on the bank statement.


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    when my wife applied, my bank statements showed an overdraft allowance of £750, some months I used nearly all of it. It was accepted, I assume that provided you have income and are not bankrupt or show constant deficit in the account that it is accepted as reasonable, but as there are no published guidelines we can only assume and guess.


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    Ooops I misread your question I was referring to the actual visa, as for the FLR i dont know, but would assume the criteria to be the same.


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