Thank you for the replies...and yes...it is permanant..I would be an utter fool to pass this lady by after all she has sacrificed for me and baby Jack..we are off back to China for 6 months and then I hope to buy a house near my brothers home (he's also married to a Filipino lady) in Pampanga.......there are a few ex-pats living there, but I dont want to become part of that kind of community, although there is nothing wrong with it as such..the only one other problem is..my missus has told me she wants a little girl..Oh god will it ever end... hehehe...Thank you again for the replies...Jack.