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    its not GLORIA's fault....if they are hungry,they are hungry because they are lazy...lots of our neighbor like that when i was a kid until now.In Philippines especially if u live on country side no need to buy a veg,if u can grow on ur own but most people dont have time on that coz they are very busy on TONG 8s...thats the reality......


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    Quote Originally Posted by ca143 View Post
    its not GLORIA's fault....In Philippines especially if u live on country side no need to buy a veg,if u can grow on ur own but most people dont have time on that coz they are very busy on TONG 8s...thats the reality......
    My wife would be inclined to agree with you ... the resources are THERE to be utilised ... especially in the provinces ... as far as I can make out.

    ... What're TONG 8s?


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    Poverty has been a long time problem in the Phils. I think it will always remain as long as the corrupt officials remain in power. If only the taxes paid by the people will be utilized properly and for the benefit of everyone, then maybe poverty will be managed if not eradicated.

    How many times I have heard about business clients complaining about the under-the-table negotiations that they were forced into with the Revenue officers....and that would be as much as 20-30 million pesos!!!...whatta heap of money which should have been used for the good of all filipinos and not just into the pockets of a very few corrupt govt. employees!!!! If ony we have honest govt. officials, then these tax evaders will be compelled to pay the taxes due from them, and that is for the benefit of the entire Filipino people.(Should I be posting this under Rant category?)

    And I don't believe that Phil.poverty is to be blamed to filipinos being lazy. Filipinos are not basically indolent! What makes them look like one is because of the social environment they are sorrounded with. Lots of Filipinos working abroad are much more hardworking and industrious compared to when they are working back home. Why? because out there in the west, they have more hope, a virtue which a Filipino tends to lose when home because of the evident corruptions, economic instability and unemployment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Les_lady888 View Post
    Poverty has been a long time problem in the Phils. I think it will always remain as long as the corrupt officials remain in power. If only the taxes paid by the people will be utilized properly and for the benefit of everyone, then maybe poverty will be managed if not eradicated.

    How many times I have heard about business clients complaining about the under-the-table negotiations that they were forced into with the Revenue officers....and that would be as much as 20-30 million pesos!!!...whatta heap of money which should have been used for the good of all filipinos and not just into the pockets of a very few corrupt govt. employees!!!! If ony we have honest govt. officials, then these tax evaders will be compelled to pay the taxes due from them, and that is for the benefit of the entire Filipino people.(Should I be posting this under Rant category?)

    And I don't believe that Phil.poverty is to be blamed to filipinos being lazy. Filipinos are not basically indolent! What makes them look like one is because of the social environment they are sorrounded with. Lots of Filipinos working abroad are much more hardworking and industrious compared to when they are working back home. Why? because out there in the west, they have more hope, a virtue which a Filipino tends to lose when home because of the evident corruptions, economic instability and unemployment.
    I wholeheartedly agree the corruption is at the root of country's problems and it does tend to cause a quite a lot of apathy within the population, but there does also seem to be quite a lot of laziness as well, especially when they get into the situation where another member of the family starts to send remittances from overseas at a level way above what they possibly could hope to earn if they got off their ares and found work for themselves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    Why hers...???

    Poverty was there before she turned up, and it will be still there hundreds of years after she's dead....
    Maybe because they believe in every presidential candidate slogan.
    Joseph Estrada's slogan was Erap, para sa mahirap, ("for the poor") and Gloria during her first candidacy was "pagkain sa bawat mesa" ("food on every table") and there are still many people believes in politician's tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Yes Alan..I would say that much of the food poverty could be described as involuntary..
    Some may say that its different in lets say Manila (concrete jungle) but Filipinos from all over the country flock there because the streets are paved with gold!! Often leaving their fallow lands behind..
    Reminds me a bit of London!!
    If my husband watched that program, he will surely moan again and tell why Britain always helping other countries not Philippines.

    Being a farmer is a no way to become hungry if they will only dig their farm and other vacant lots. That was I always hear from my dad when he was still alive. I can't find any space in our farm without plants even underneath the trees, he plants veggies for us and then take the rest to the market.

    This modern times, our place is no longer a countryside but a city and it's still the same as my brod in Law and Nanay always make it sure we have veggies all the time and villagers just come and buy our veggies and no need to bring in the market.

    attached my Nanay veggies that i really miss

    Quote Originally Posted by ca143 View Post
    its not GLORIA's fault....if they are hungry,they are hungry because they are lazy...lots of our neighbor like that when i was a kid until now.In Philippines especially if u live on country side no need to buy a veg,if u can grow on ur own but most people dont have time on that coz they are very busy on TONG 8s...thats the reality......
    You are right! I have seen in some areas with poor environment where their hobby is playing tong its. Too bad really as that environment influences children.
    I agree we need to help ourselves and not to depend in our government.
    And also not to be a burden of our society.
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    [QUOTE=pennybarry;201636]Maybe because they believe in every presidential candidate slogan.
    Joseph Estrada's slogan was Erap, para sa mahirap, ("for the poor") and Gloria during her first candidacy was "pagkain sa bawat mesa" ("food on every table")

    Maraming salamat for the translation Penny, masaya ako talaga I'm happy to learn Tagalog and understand more about the reasons for food poverty ...you have a delightful way of explaining things in English !


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    Maybe because they believe in every presidential candidate slogan.
    Joseph Estrada's slogan was Erap, para sa mahirap, ("for the poor") and Gloria during her first candidacy was "pagkain sa bawat mesa" ("food on every table")

    Maraming salamat for the translation Penny, masaya ako talaga I'm happy to learn Tagalog and understand more about the reasons for food poverty ...you have a delightful way of explaining things in English !
    Walang anuman (Don't mention it)
    Thanks Alan. I used to teach my husband too but he is eager to know the part of the body first in english.


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    [QUOTE=pennybarry;201653]
    Quote Originally Posted by jackson.alan46 View Post

    I used to teach my husband too but he is eager to know the part of the body first in english.
    Anatomy is my special interest No food poverty kapag tumibok ang puso (when the heart is beating)


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