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    Quote Originally Posted by eytch29 View Post
    On January 15, I was stopped by a police officer and asked me to come out of the car, he asked me if I used my mobile phone while driving. I said no, and then he said they normally give warning if they admit it but since I lied he will give me Fixed Penalty Notice £60 fine and 3 points on my license. I told the officer that I really didn’t use my phone, I was just scratching my head because I couldn’t pass the intersection because it’s traffic. I offered to check my phone to prove that I was telling the truth but he said he knows how mobile phone works and didn’t check it. He checked my license and issued me the FPN then he asked me to go to the police station and bring my paper counterpart license. He even said that I was a bad person.
    I will be applying for citizenship this April, would this affect my application if I bring this to court?
    Any advice please. Thanks.
    You are OK I don't think they will view you as a threat to the country. This is what the UKBA guidance notes say

    You must give details of all criminal convictions both within or outside the United Kingdom. These include road traffic offences, but not fixed penalty notices which have not been given in a court. Fixed penalty notices include parking and speeding offences. Drink driving offences must be declared.

    I would just pay up and not argue it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post

    I would just pay up and not argue it
    Thanks, but 3 points will stay on my license for 4 years, will affect my insurance and this would mean I was really lying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eytch29 View Post
    Thanks, but 3 points will stay on my license for 4 years, will affect my insurance and this would mean I was really lying.
    3 points wont affect your insurance that much, if at all. To be honest, I would pay the fine and live with the 3 points for the next 4 years. As I said, it was more likely he gave the FPN for some traffic violation.

    I had 3 points in January 2006 for a speed camera on the M4 (J41 Port Talbot) in a restricted 50mph zone, and would you know, a year later later the camera was removed as it was causing accidents at a nearby junction http://www.speedcameras.org/speed-ca...cle.php?id=131 I still kept the points though, they wouldn't remove them, and would you believe it, I now gotta pay £20 to have those points removed from my licence, even though they have expired.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    3 points wont affect your insurance that much, if at all.
    Don't bet on it I jumped a red light 3 yrs ago camera showed I crossed the line at some low speed like 20mph one second too late - car was loaded with loose boxes so I didn't emergency stop. 3 points £60 fine - Direct Line loaded my premium by £70 per year for each of the 3 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post

    I would just pay up and not argue it
    seems we have no right to defend ourself to policemen here?
    They will not bother to listen and check?
    Whatever they say is true. Just confused.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    seems we have no right to defend ourself to policemen here?
    They will not bother to listen and check?
    Whatever they say is true. Just confused.
    Probaby because there are cameras everywhere, and I bet the policeman had one in his car as well, most traffic cars do. Welcome to CCTV UK


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    I was wrongly convicted of a traffic offence many years ago. I of course denied the offence and so it went to court. In court the police officer LIED and so I was found guilty of something I hadn't done!! It doesn't give one much confidence in our police force does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I was wrongly convicted of a traffic offence many years ago. I of course denied the offence and so it went to court. In court the police officer LIED and so I was found guilty of something I hadn't done!! It doesn't give one much confidence in our police force does it?

    Al.
    That was what my husband said. If you were wrongly accused, sometimes you need to prove it in court and if you found guilty, then you are more worst.

    My husband is driving lorry and bus for 25 years and no offence yet. But he said he may have some soon because whilst he's driving, I'm giving him wrong instructions. He wants me to shut my mouth if he's driving.


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    Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I was wrongly convicted of a traffic offence many years ago. I of course denied the offence and so it went to court. In court the police officer LIED and so I was found guilty of something I hadn't done!! It doesn't give one much confidence in our police force does it?


    (Before I was a police officer) I got off many traffic offences by lying too, just like practically everybody does.

    Alan, that you say you were convicted MANY YEARS AGO would seem to show that it was a very isolated occurrence. Penny says her husband has been a professional driver for 25 and has no convictions. So maybe its not a common occurrence and thus we can have confidence in our (your) police service.

    (Oops, now I am opening a can of worm !!!!! )


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    He wants me to shut my mouth if he's driving.
    Like finding an ice cream seller in Hell..... Impossible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Like finding an ice cream seller in Hell..... Impossible
    Why do you know I love ice cream boss?
    I love strawberry milk shake too!

    One time he was driving in the countryside and I have spotted people enjoying picking strawberries in the field. I read Pick your own strawberries!!.

    He was shocked when I shout WoW ! stop the car!
    I want to buy strawberries.!!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    seems we have no right to defend ourself to policemen here?
    They will not bother to listen and check?
    Whatever they say is true. Just confused.
    I think you tend to forget what the police are like in the Philippines, we seem to be quite lucky having a decent Police force.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WillsG25 View Post
    I think you tend to forget what the police are like in the Philippines, we seem to be quite lucky having a decent Police force.
    I will never forget our bad policemen as well as our good policemen too.
    I will never forget where I came from and my roots.
    I admit I have high expectations in UK governemnt as they are not corrupt and I am very much proud of it!
    That's why I am confused and asked.
    I am proud of my country and your country!


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