Quote Originally Posted by complex View Post
your not reading my response its quite clear, you said they stole it, I didn't say they invented it, you even admit it now in your follow up post that they licensed it and you ask where was you wrong?
Seems I try and be fair and reasonable and everytime someone responds changing the goal posts! Now tell me if I'm wrong lol

yes and although they were inspired by Xerox Parc to some degree it was Jeff Raskin who had ties with Xerox and brought attention to Steve Jobs, and he redefined and changed a lot of Xerox's UI, so the finished product was a lot more advanced.

Maybe you should take a look at these, i'm sure there is a lot more to read on the matter, first time I seen these links myself and I know I've read other pieces on the topic.

http://library.stanford.edu/mac/prim...skin/parc.html
http://mxmora.best.vwh.net/JefRaskin.html
yes your wrong, where in my post did i say they stole it ??, you've mentioned stealing in 3 posts up to now..


and you've admitted it yourself that the mouse and GUI came from Xerox, so how am i wrong ?? , oh hang on they didn't invent the mouse they had to get a license , still apple didn't invent them did they ????

oh i see you've used the word 'inspired by'

this is what i said
'they've copied things from other companies - the mouse, GUI all came from xerox as well as many other firsts'

the mouse they did license it, well they had to as it had a patent on it

some at apple had worked at xerox, jobs had seen the GUI at xerox, yes of course they didn't copy it 100%, they made their own changes and improvements

I created this method for moving objects and making selections after finding the Xerox click-move-click method prone to error

When I joined Apple in 1978 I stopped visiting PARC to avoid any possible conflicts of interest.

I eventually wrote a memo that showed, point by point, that the one-button mouse could do everything that PARCs three-button mouse could do and with the same number or fewer user actions

I had observed that people (including myself) at PARC often made wrong-button errors in using the mouse, which was part of my impetus for doing better.

jef raskin quotes.