Apple to unveil new product

[South-east boy]

Really? What's so complicated about:

1) Press power button
2) (...then Windows Starts up)
3) Hit the Internet Explorer/Firefox/Opera/Safari icon
...and hey presto your on the net!

Again, if you were to use Notepad to take some notes:

1) Press power button
2)(...then Windows starts up)
3) Click start > Notepad

I'm sure all is great and wonderful in Apple land, but Windows is perfect for me, along with my 3 year old Sony Ericsson which has NO limits on bluetooth, (and I can send/receive email as well).

If Apple gives you a warm fuzzy feeling with their overpriced, over hyped products/rubbish, then good for you. My underhyped/overpriced FujitsuSiemens Li3910 makes me happy and does the job far better than any i-phone./i-pod/i-pad/i-whatever.

I had an email a while back, and it had the tagline "This email was sent from
my I-phone".

So you have used all of Apples current products then to know that they are 'rubbish' and what you have is better? I only have an iPhone and iPod, but the demo I saw on the new iMac was pretty impressive!

Yeah, the iPhone would be better with a removeable battery, but you only would need to remove it if changing it over with a spare one. I don't see a y problems with the apps as there are so many and at least as they are through Apple they are less likely to cause any problems. Every one csn find a fault with any certain phone or something that one has that another hasn't, or one that seems to have everything but isn't so easy to use or doesn't work so well.

[aromulus]

I personally think that iphones and ipod this and that are a waste of space and an unnecessary expense.

People get suckered into buying the applications, games, songs....

[fred]

Never saw an Ipod up close..My son asked for a memory stick the other day "for school"so I poked him in the head to show him where his own is stored..
Im sure Im missing out on tons of fun and games but for some reason I just dont care.

[joebloggs]

Im sure Im missing out on tons of fun and games but for some reason I just dont care.

[bornatbirth]

worns golf can be fun.

but a dedicated games machine is far better.

ok i understand how good a mobile phone is, at times i wonder why do you need all this other stuff like mp3, camera when you get get better dedicated devise.

apple do decent products as all theyre doing is using whats already being used and making it easier to use and better looking, even pc's are getting a make over.

your paying for the brand.

[complex]

I personally think that iphones and ipod this and that are a waste of space and an unnecessary expense.

People get suckered into buying the applications, games, songs....

So people getting suckered into buying music and games, what, instead of stealing? well we see the angle your coming from lol I think people choosing where they wanna spend their money is up to them.

[KeithD]

So you have used all of Apples current products then to know that they are 'rubbish' and what you have is better? I only have an iPhone and iPod, but the demo I saw on the new iMac was pretty impressive!l.

I have, and so has Rob, obviosuly not the iMac but the Specs are

[Northerner]

Have been umming and ahhing over getting an Iphone. But to be honest, they are simply overpriced for what you get. HTC offer far better handsets for about £100 less. They use Google android in some of them, so there are plenty of Apps and stuff floating round on the internet.

But the one thing about Apple that I really do like is Itunes, specifically Itunes U! And I like the idea of download free debates and lectures and boring stuff like that.. But at least with Itunes, Apple made it simple with updating and downloading and syncing to the phone..

I currently use a Blackberry Bold 9000. good phone, but the internet browser crashes with large pages, such as Wikipedia

but the Sony Satio is looking kind of nice too... Will need to research this before I upgrade

[aromulus]

but the Sony Satio is looking kind of nice too... Will need to research this before I upgrade

I have been considering an upgrade to the Satio too, for a while, and what is keeping me from doing it just yet is the fact that they had several crashing issues with that phone, which allegedly have been sorted out....
But the big bone of contention with me is the simple fact that the battery life is rather short, according to the forums...
I would love to get myself a 12meg camera phone for nothing.... But not just yet, I prefer to wait a wee bit longer...

[complex]

I have been considering an upgrade to the Satio too, for a while, and what is keeping me from doing it just yet is the fact that they had several crashing issues with that phone, which allegedly have been sorted out....
But the big bone of contention with me is the simple fact that the battery life is rather short, according to the forums...
I would love to get myself a 12meg camera phone for nothing.... But not just yet, I prefer to wait a wee bit longer...

why do you want a 12megapixel camera on a phone, seriously its a waste of time, it wont improve the picture quality, if anything its likely to make it worse, add to memory you don't need, if you understand anything about Photography you would know this, this how people get suckered in, people moan the iPhones specs aren't up to scratch but if you look at numbers and think bigger is better than your sadly misinformed. (sure there will be some quips on bigger is better! )

[South-east boy]

Have been umming and ahhing over getting an Iphone. But to be honest, they are simply overpriced for what you get. HTC offer far better handsets for about £100 less. They use Google android in some of them, so there are plenty of Apps and stuff floating round on the internet.

But the one thing about Apple that I really do like is Itunes, specifically Itunes U! And I like the idea of download free debates and lectures and boring stuff like that.. But at least with Itunes, Apple made it simple with updating and downloading and syncing to the phone..

I currently use a Blackberry Bold 9000. good phone, but the internet browser crashes with large pages, such as Wikipedia

but the Sony Satio is looking kind of nice too... Will need to research this before I upgrade

I dunno about the iPhone being over-priced as any similar new phone will be a similar price, the same with tarrifs, if you want the latest new phone there is a cost on top depending on what tarrif and the length of it.

Also I don't know about HTC being better, I spent weeks reading reviews and comparrison reviews between them (and a few HTC's) and the iPhone on all the phones before I bought mine and each other phone had something that wasn't so good or didn't work so well such as the touch screen not being as responsive and needing to press/touch it a few times to get it to do something.

I bought my phone outright as then I could get the simplicity tarrif for one year which gets you better tarrif than the £45 a month one and I also only need to have it for a year instead of 18-24 months, so I can sell ot for a food price and use the money towards the next new one.

[aromulus]

So people getting suckered into buying music and games, what, instead of stealing? well we see the angle your coming from lol I think people choosing where they wanna spend their money is up to them.

why do you want a 12megapixel camera on a phone, seriously its a waste of time, it wont improve the picture quality, if anything its likely to make it worse, add to memory you don't need, if you understand anything about Photography you would know this, this how people get suckered in, people moan the iPhones specs aren't up to scratch but if you look at numbers and think bigger is better than your sadly misinformed. (sure there will be some quips on bigger is better! )

And you would be an undisputed messianic autority on all this because.....???

[complex]

And you would be an undisputed messianic autority on all this because.....???

I didn't say I was an authority, but its just well known if you have an interest in photography, so why are you so impressed by Megapixels should be the question, but just like any informed consumers that look into gadgets before buying, do some research and you would know this.

[Northerner]

I dunno about the iPhone being over-priced as any similar new phone will be a similar price, the same with tarrifs, if you want the latest new phone there is a cost on top depending on what tarrif and the length of it.

Also I don't know about HTC being better, I spent weeks reading reviews and comparrison reviews between them (and a few HTC's) and the iPhone on all the phones before I bought mine and each other phone had something that wasn't so good or didn't work so well such as the touch screen not being as responsive and needing to press/touch it a few times to get it to do something.

I bought my phone outright as then I could get the simplicity tarrif for one year which gets you better tarrif than the £45 a month one and I also only need to have it for a year instead of 18-24 months, so I can sell ot for a food price and use the money towards the next new one.

I am talking more from experience with the Iphone (so many people have them it is easy to have a quick go with one). There is no "Iphone Killer" as of yet, although I have read reviews of one of the HTC phones which was dubbed the Iphone killer, but they really wont be.

The good thing about the Iphone is it is easy to use, it is a simple smartphone with plenty of apps available. To be honest, it is the apps making me think about the Iphone more and more as I like the idea that my bank has an app as well!

When I say overpriced, I am referring to what the Iphone has and what another phone has. I would need to increase my monthly contract fee in order to get one, but with a Sony Satio or one of those newer HTC models I don't. Yet the specs on some of these look as good if not better. But then that is how the Iphone is marketed - as the exclusive must have (for lack of better words).

Plus, I dont like how Apple tie you in with certain providers. Even though I use O2, I go through the Carphone Warehouse. And I would technically have to switch to have an Iphone

[complex]

I have, and so has Rob, obviosuly not the iMac but the Specs are

I'm starting to think your just winding us up!

firstly when you talked about processors which is obvious BS as anyone can check the specs and see macs are at the high end of processors. Now with a blanket statement saying you've used them all and their all rubbish, well if thats the case well I've used all PC's and there rubbish too so there lol

[KeithD]

Firstly an observation, why do people hate on Apple so much,

You'll find that we don't HATE Apple they are excellent marketers, the problem is that they aim at gullible people who constantly pay extra for inferior products.

Someone mentioned HTC, the version I bought in 2004 still does more than the Iphone , and well the new HTC I have, it'll take Apple at least 10 years to get to that level as their R&D is well behind.

In 2009 the OS with the worst security problems was Apple's. FACT. Check the official security site that covers all updates on all machines.

You can't win this discussion you are talking to people who have been programming, building, repairing computers for 20+ years.

[complex]

You'll find that we don't HATE Apple they are excellent marketers, the problem is that they aim at gullible people who constantly pay extra for inferior products.

Someone mentioned HTC, the version I bought in 2004 still does more than the Iphone , and well the new HTC I have, it'll take Apple at least 10 years to get to that level as their R&D is well behind.

In 2009 the OS with the worst security problems was Apple's. FACT. Check the official security site that covers all updates on all machines.

You can't win this discussion you are talking to people who have been programming, building, repairing computers for 20+ years.

Some of the stuff you say is just laughable, "10 years as their R&D is well behind", even most PC zealots know Apple are strong in research and development and have many more patents than HTC have and are currently suing HTC, so your 20 years in Computers didn't really pay off lol
Funny how you ignore my counter arguments when you stated other obvious BS about processors etc and you just come back with generalisations with no real facts!
yes some things about Apples security have been questioned over last few years but considering I haven't installed Virus software once on any of my 5 Macs, don't even have a firewall turned on (which maybe crazy), yet I know I sleep soundly while my mac sitting back in the UK is currently serving my torrents etc on 24/7 rebooted maybe every couple months for updates.

Maybe you spent most those 20 years fixing your broke PC's

My Filipina wife keeps telling me to stop arguing as no one will want to help us, but I told her not to worry we can all shake hands after a fight.

[joebloggs]

My Filipina wife keeps telling me to stop arguing as no one will want to help us, but I told her not to worry we can all shake hands after a fight.

nothing wrong with a bit of banter so dont get upset with us PC lot, it looks like you might be the only APPLE computer fan on here, seeing the PC has more than 90% of the market..

i like the pc becuase i can get under the bonnet, install what ever O/S i want..

as for your apple, i've had 100s of games installed on this PC. it's been on 24/7 for years, and in the past 3yrs i've probably only reinstalled XP only once and i'll not go into the reasons why i had to do that

and Apple R&D, they've copied things from other companies - the mouse, GUI all came from xerox as well as many other firsts

as for processor speeds, i dont know seeing they use intel chips now, but motorola 68000 was an awsome processor back in the old days..

[aromulus]

[QUOTE=complex;212867]instead of stealing? well we see the angle your coming from QUOTE]

I take exception to this offensive innuendo.

why do you want a 12megapixel camera on a phone, seriously its a waste of time, it wont improve the picture quality, if anything its likely to make it worse, add to memory you don't need, if you understand anything about Photography you would know this, this how people get suckered in, people moan the iPhones specs aren't up to scratch but if you look at numbers and think bigger is better than your sadly misinformed. (sure there will be some quips on bigger is better! )

I have forgotten about photograpy far more than you will ever know about it.

I didn't say I was an authority, but its just well known if you have an interest in photography, so why are you so impressed by Megapixels should be the question, but just like any informed consumers that look into gadgets before buying, do some research and you would know this.

I have done research, and the Satio will be the camera phone of choice, if and when the various issues are sorted out.

[complex]

nothing wrong with a bit of banter so dont get upset with us PC lot, it looks like you might be the only APPLE computer fan on here, seeing the PC has more than 90% of the market..

i like the pc becuase i can get under the bonnet, install what ever O/S i want..

as for your apple, i've had 100s of games installed on this PC. it's been on 24/7 for years, and in the past 3yrs i've probably only reinstalled XP only once and i'll not go into the reasons why i had to do that

and Apple R&D, they've copied things from other companies - the mouse, GUI all came from xerox as well as many other firsts

as for processor speeds, i dont know seeing they use intel chips now, but motorola 68000 was an awsome processor back in the old days..

Well I've not got a problem with windows users, just people who seem to think I was suckered into buying a mac because I'm gullable and somehow apple brain washed me. Im not rich and I spend my money wisely and the macs I've bought have and still serve me well many years, I can't say same for friends PCs of various varieties. I would recommend people even buy a pc if they want to play games or do some other tasks that macs can't match in terms of software!

I also know my computer history and to say apple stole the mouse would be consider inlamatory, I won't go into it but it's all searchable on the net how it came about. Where as only recently Microsoft was found to have used code that was spotted by someone and they had to apologise!

I think we can agree to disagree on most of this stuff lol so I won't speak on Mac v PC anymore!