Apple to unveil new product

[KeithD]

Firstly an observation, why do people hate on Apple so much,

You'll find that we don't HATE Apple they are excellent marketers, the problem is that they aim at gullible people who constantly pay extra for inferior products.

Someone mentioned HTC, the version I bought in 2004 still does more than the Iphone , and well the new HTC I have, it'll take Apple at least 10 years to get to that level as their R&D is well behind.

In 2009 the OS with the worst security problems was Apple's. FACT. Check the official security site that covers all updates on all machines.

You can't win this discussion you are talking to people who have been programming, building, repairing computers for 20+ years.

[complex]

You'll find that we don't HATE Apple they are excellent marketers, the problem is that they aim at gullible people who constantly pay extra for inferior products.

Someone mentioned HTC, the version I bought in 2004 still does more than the Iphone , and well the new HTC I have, it'll take Apple at least 10 years to get to that level as their R&D is well behind.

In 2009 the OS with the worst security problems was Apple's. FACT. Check the official security site that covers all updates on all machines.

You can't win this discussion you are talking to people who have been programming, building, repairing computers for 20+ years.

Some of the stuff you say is just laughable, "10 years as their R&D is well behind", even most PC zealots know Apple are strong in research and development and have many more patents than HTC have and are currently suing HTC, so your 20 years in Computers didn't really pay off lol
Funny how you ignore my counter arguments when you stated other obvious BS about processors etc and you just come back with generalisations with no real facts!
yes some things about Apples security have been questioned over last few years but considering I haven't installed Virus software once on any of my 5 Macs, don't even have a firewall turned on (which maybe crazy), yet I know I sleep soundly while my mac sitting back in the UK is currently serving my torrents etc on 24/7 rebooted maybe every couple months for updates.

Maybe you spent most those 20 years fixing your broke PC's

My Filipina wife keeps telling me to stop arguing as no one will want to help us, but I told her not to worry we can all shake hands after a fight.

[joebloggs]

My Filipina wife keeps telling me to stop arguing as no one will want to help us, but I told her not to worry we can all shake hands after a fight.

nothing wrong with a bit of banter so dont get upset with us PC lot, it looks like you might be the only APPLE computer fan on here, seeing the PC has more than 90% of the market..

i like the pc becuase i can get under the bonnet, install what ever O/S i want..

as for your apple, i've had 100s of games installed on this PC. it's been on 24/7 for years, and in the past 3yrs i've probably only reinstalled XP only once and i'll not go into the reasons why i had to do that

and Apple R&D, they've copied things from other companies - the mouse, GUI all came from xerox as well as many other firsts

as for processor speeds, i dont know seeing they use intel chips now, but motorola 68000 was an awsome processor back in the old days..

[aromulus]

[QUOTE=complex;212867]instead of stealing? well we see the angle your coming from QUOTE]

I take exception to this offensive innuendo.

why do you want a 12megapixel camera on a phone, seriously its a waste of time, it wont improve the picture quality, if anything its likely to make it worse, add to memory you don't need, if you understand anything about Photography you would know this, this how people get suckered in, people moan the iPhones specs aren't up to scratch but if you look at numbers and think bigger is better than your sadly misinformed. (sure there will be some quips on bigger is better! )

I have forgotten about photograpy far more than you will ever know about it.

I didn't say I was an authority, but its just well known if you have an interest in photography, so why are you so impressed by Megapixels should be the question, but just like any informed consumers that look into gadgets before buying, do some research and you would know this.

I have done research, and the Satio will be the camera phone of choice, if and when the various issues are sorted out.

[complex]

[QUOTE=aromulus;213090]

instead of stealing? well we see the angle your coming from QUOTE]

I take exception to this offensive innuendo.



I have forgotten about photograpy far more than you will ever know about it.



I have done research, and the Satio will be the camera phone of choice, if and when the various issues are sorted out.

sorry if I offended you, I wasn't acusing you of stealing music, but merely posed the question as the obvious alternative to what I considered to be flippant comments from you or at worst just ignorrant!

And to say you have forgotten more than I'll ever know about photography must make you a mind reader, as I've not disclosed my credentials in photography, unlike you displaying your ignorrance of digital photography!

Now if you've researched that phone and it's the best phone of the type you want then that's fine, I was merely stating previously that it's a waste of megapixels, more a case of each manufacturer trying to out-do each other in the numbers war!

[complex]

nothing wrong with a bit of banter so dont get upset with us PC lot, it looks like you might be the only APPLE computer fan on here, seeing the PC has more than 90% of the market..

i like the pc becuase i can get under the bonnet, install what ever O/S i want..

as for your apple, i've had 100s of games installed on this PC. it's been on 24/7 for years, and in the past 3yrs i've probably only reinstalled XP only once and i'll not go into the reasons why i had to do that

and Apple R&D, they've copied things from other companies - the mouse, GUI all came from xerox as well as many other firsts

as for processor speeds, i dont know seeing they use intel chips now, but motorola 68000 was an awsome processor back in the old days..

Well I've not got a problem with windows users, just people who seem to think I was suckered into buying a mac because I'm gullable and somehow apple brain washed me. Im not rich and I spend my money wisely and the macs I've bought have and still serve me well many years, I can't say same for friends PCs of various varieties. I would recommend people even buy a pc if they want to play games or do some other tasks that macs can't match in terms of software!

I also know my computer history and to say apple stole the mouse would be consider inlamatory, I won't go into it but it's all searchable on the net how it came about. Where as only recently Microsoft was found to have used code that was spotted by someone and they had to apologise!

I think we can agree to disagree on most of this stuff lol so I won't speak on Mac v PC anymore!

[joebloggs]

I also know my computer history and to say apple stole the mouse would be consider inlamatory, I won't go into it but it's all searchable on the net how it came about. Where as only recently Microsoft was found to have used code that was spotted by someone and they had to apologise!

I think we can agree to disagree on most of this stuff lol so I won't speak on Mac v PC anymore!

i know my pc history, i've been using computers since the late 70's and the mouse was invented by Douglas C. Engelbart in 1967, tell me when the first apple was invented

and in 1973: Xerox Alto Computer which was the first computer to use a mouse, and i've studied all this as part of my degree course in IT

so tell me where i'm wrong ? , they didnt invent it, it was licensed to them, also jobs went to xerox in the late 70's thats where he saw the GUI.

Steve Jobs of Apple Computer toured the Xerox PARC facilities in 1979 and immediately recognized the utility of the GUI on the Alto. The design of Apple's Lisa computer, already under development, was changed to be GUI-based. Xerox also developed a GUI machine called the Star for the mass market, but both the Lisa and Star were flops due to their high price tags. It wasn't until the Macintosh was released in 1984 that the price point for mass-market appeal in a GUI machine was achieved

http://www.cedmagic.com/history/xerox-alto.html