Filipina wife visiting visa to UK. Help please.

[keithAngel]

... with respect, I cannot see any reason for Jon NOT being granted a SPOUSAL Visa, given that his income appears to be on a par with mine. I'VE been a State Pensioner myself, since last September, and MY wife's visa was approved six months previously ... at which time my income actually amounted to LESS (than it is now) - as [being retired prematurely] I was then in receipt of the interim 'stop-gap' known as Guaranteed Pension Credit, to top-up a modest occupational pension. Indeed, Keith ... if you cast your mind back to some of my earliest posts at the time I first joined this forum in October 2008, you'll see what I mean.

Your right Arthur but you may remember it took a little while to elicite all the information to arrive at that conclusion unfortunatly I cant find your or my posts of that time .

One difference I do recall was that you owned outright your own home and in addition were applying from the UK

John as you say your child can come with you in anycase on a British Passport and as Arthur says you will probably meet income requirements with 600 a month what you will need to do is have proof of adequate accomodation do you have that?

The application for your wife has to show that its not a case were on the balance of probability you would all arrive in the UK and require immediate help from the public purse .

You and your child could of course just arrive stay with friends /family etc but to get the settlement visa you need to demonstrate conformaty to the H.O. rules (nothing to do with whats right unfortunatly) the more info you give the better the advise can be here.

Conjecture on my part in the absence of more information would be that you would need £1500 airfares perhaps, £500 spouse visa app a place to rent perhaps initially furnished £5-£800 plus deposit plus exteraneous amounts which could all add up to £4-6 k of course you may already know where you will live etc so keep the information coming

[Arthur Little]

Your right Arthur but you may remember it took a little while to elicite all the information to arrive at that conclusion unfortunatly I cant find your or my posts of that time .

Keith, the thread I'm referring to in particular was [appropriately] entitled '?What If ... ' and was typed on 29/10/08 ... with YOUR replies (among others) following on, the next day ... and again on the 31st. It can be accessed easily [by ME, at least] by going to my profile page and (under statistics) clicking on 'Show all threads by Arthur Little' ... but, of course, with THIS thread having long-since been "padlocked", I don't know whether other members will still be able to view it ...? I would certainly like to refer to it again in more detail, in order to help John in whatever way I can.

One difference I do recall was that you owned outright your own home and in addition were applying from the UK

Yes, that's true ... ! However, my wife and I applied for her visa from the Phils ... during my subsequent visit there.

[keithAngel]

Keith, the thread I'm referring to in particular was [appropriately] entitled '?What If ... ' and was typed on 29/10/08 ... with YOUR replies (among others) following on, the next day ... and again on the 31st. It can be accessed easily [by ME, at least] by going to my profile page and (under statistics) clicking on 'Show all threads by Arthur Little' ... but, of course, with THIS thread having long-since been "padlocked", I don't know whether other members will still be able to view it ...? I would certainly like to refer to it again in more detail, in order to help John in whatever way I can.




Yes, that's true ... ! However, my wife and I applied for her visa from the Phils ... during my subsequent visit there.

Heres your thread Arthur
http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?t=11873

I think its just a question of John covering the accomadation thing thats harder potentialy for him whilst he is in the Phils as Idealy they need to include where they will live in tha application whereas you already had that one covered although we didnt know tthat at the begining perhaps John already has a plan?

[JonHig]

Arthur,!

I have read all your details included in the past posts and there is an almost identical situation re the finances. The big difference is i have no property. I once did of course and it was a nice house in Wimbledon, in the years when i spent my summer hols in Glen Isla, renting a house from Lord Inchcape! Things went pear shaped, as they say, when my first wife and i were divorced and the house ( a few years later to be sold by her for just under 1 million pounds) went to her.

I have lived the rest of my life abroad. 17 years iin France, 5 years in the middle east (where i met my present wife) and 2 years in the Philippines. It is during the last two years that i have been slowly relieved of any savings i had. Partly because of the exchange rate which was 87pesos to the pound when i arrived here.

On reading all that has gone before, it is very evident that i shall not be able to get my wife into the UK. I suppose that France is a viable alternative as i once had my carte de sejour there, and i think they are not as ruthless over the visas, as they are in the UK. The language may be a problem for my wife at first, and i would not get some benefits that i would be entitled to in Britain. The quality of life there is however very good, but i digress!

So it seems i have to go over to GB, get myself settled into a rented house, find some work and stick it out through thick and thin, until i am better off financially. We must not forget that our little girl Chloe, is a British citizen, and i have already been given a pension rise for my wife with her accompanying NI no for what it is worth. There seems to be nothing wrong (in my simple mind) in my being given housing benefit at first, as long as i had got off it by the time we were able to apply for the settlement visa. I would send her sufficient funds each month, which would be recorded and go some way to proving that i was able to support her as well as myself, at the same time cementing our relationship even further surely. If i was also able to secure an offer of a job for her, then i believe that would be another plus.

I must say how kind you and Keith have been with your concern and help, This must be a totally unique forum! It is so sad that things are the way they are, but upwards and onwards i suppose.

Arthur, do i assume the final outcome for you was a success, and was it because of your house? The thread seemed to stop before the end of the story, if it has ended that is!

I must stop prattling on now, but i think by doing so i may have clarified my siuation somewhat.

Thank you Keith, and thank you Arthur once more.
Best regards
John

[joebloggs]

I have lived the rest of my life abroad. 17 years iin France, 5 years in the middle east (where i met my present wife) and 2 years in the Philippines. It is during the last two years that i have been slowly relieved of any savings i had. Partly because of the exchange rate which was 87pesos to the pound when i arrived here.

On reading all that has gone before, it is very evident that i shall not be able to get my wife into the UK. I suppose that France is a viable alternative as i once had my carte de sejour there, and i think they are not as ruthless over the visas, as they are in the UK. The language may be a problem for my wife at first, and i would not get some benefits that i would be entitled to in Britain. The quality of life there is however very good, but i digress!
John

do you have french residency/passport ?
it might be possible for you to use the EU route using a EEA family permit for your wife, cost nothing and difficult to refuse compared to a spouse visa and bring your wife to the UK that way

http://www.visabureau.com/uk/family-permit-married.aspx

even if it's not possible now, if you could go and live in a European country for a few months and then try the Surinder singh route and bring her to the UK ..

http://www.ncadc.org.uk/archives/fil...ews17/don.html

[IainBusby]

do you have french residency/passport ?
it might be possible for you to use the EU route using a EEA family permit for your wife, cost nothing and difficult to refuse compared to a spouse visa and bring your wife to the UK that way

http://www.visabureau.com/uk/family-permit-married.aspx

even if it's not possible now, if you could go and live in a European country for a few months and then try the Surinder singh route and bring her to the UK ..

http://www.ncadc.org.uk/archives/fil...ews17/don.html

From what I've read after following your link above (Surinder singh route) it looks like Ireland might be about the best option for him, it's near enough to nip over to the UK now and then to make other arrangements and they all speak English so his wife won't struggle with the language. If he can settle there and get accomodation, employment etc, from what it says there he could justifably claim that he had exercised EC Treaty rights to work in another Member State as he did when he lived in France. Of course after that uncertain, unstated period of time when it comes to making an application to move to the UK from Ireland, the same rules with regard to finances and not becoming a burden on the state will still apply.
Iain.

[joebloggs]

Of course after that uncertain, unstated period of time when it comes to making an application to move to the UK from Ireland, the same rules with regard to finances and not becoming a burden on the state will still apply.
Iain.

Ireland is a popular choice , no i dont think so, not from Ireland anyway, he would have to apply for a EEA family permit for the uk for his wife (that's an entrance clearance and not a visa, if he wants minimal problems entering the uk). Making sure that he had proof as a worker or self-sufficient status while in Ireland for at least six months. Also, write a cover letter and make it clear that you are applying under the Singh ruling. but from the phils to Ireland he might have to show about his finances. and he would need medical insurance for them both.
remember a EU citizen has a legal right to bring his wife, unlike the british citizen in his own country..