Student visa proposed changes

[aromulus]

A couple of loopholes closed for some....

But doesn't go far enough.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8502640.stm

[joebloggs]

but the screw is tightening on immigrants..

200 bogus colleges, why are the people who ran them not in prison ?

[doonat]

i guess it's a polite way to say "pack your things and go home"

[darren-b]

i guess it's a polite way to say "pack your things and go home"

Not really, it's just trying to make sure that students who come to the UK are comng here to study and not coming here just to work.

If you are a student with money then you will always be welcomed.

[doonat]

to some it is the end of their stay in uk while others still rely on the loopholes.
it may be too early to panic but we haven't seen yet the provisions for the new law.

[darren-b]

Here's the announcement on the UKBA web site.

http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco...r-foreign-stud

The written ministerial statement seems to suggest that some new rules will come in on the 3rd March 2010 and are even stonger than mentioned originally, for example "ban students’ dependants from working unless they qualify in their own right".

http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco...tier-4-student

[IainBusby]

Here's the announcement on the UKBA web site.

http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco...r-foreign-stud

The written ministerial statement seems to suggest that some new rules will come in on the 3rd March 2010 and are even stonger than mentioned originally, for example "ban students’ dependants from working unless they qualify in their own right".

http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco...tier-4-student

I don't think students should be allowed to bring their dependants here with them and even if they do allow them to come here, I don't think that either students or their dependants should be allowed to work during term time full stop. It's far too tempting to see it as a way to come to the west and work and it's why the system is so often abused. Even when they are only allowed to work 20 hours a week, their families back home may still have expectations which no doubt leads to study taking second place to working.
Iain.

[darren-b]

I don't think students should be allowed to bring their dependants here with them and even if they do allow them to come here, I don't think that either students or their dependants should be allowed to work during term time full stop. It's far too tempting to see it as a way to come to the west and work and it's why the system is so often abused. Even when they are only allowed to work 20 hours a week, their families back home may still have expectations which no doubt leads to study taking second place to working.
Iain.

Personally I have no problem with students bringing their dependants here if they can afford to, though I totally agree with you about the working aspect.

The aim of the student visa system should be to bring money into the country, not as a way for money to leave the country.

[IainBusby]

Personally I have no problem with students bringing their dependants here if they can afford to, though I totally agree with you about the working aspect.

The aim of the student visa system should be to bring money into the country, not as a way for money to leave the country.

[joebloggs]

I don't think students should be allowed to bring their dependants here with them and even if they do allow them to come here, I don't think that either students or their dependants should be allowed to work during term time full stop. It's far too tempting to see it as a way to come to the west and work and it's why the system is so often abused. Even when they are only allowed to work 20 hours a week, their families back home may still have expectations which no doubt leads to study taking second place to working.
Iain.

its not just bringing their dependants, its what they can do once here, switch btw who is the dependant, and by switching visa's from tier 2, student visa and tier 1 and managed to stay here 10yrs and apply for ILR.

i've seen a few people claim under the 10yr rule, because they've been a student for 10yrs how can a student afford at least £5k a year in international fees for 10yrs ??

or once their visa is running out, apply for a COA and wed a eastern European to stay here. if they want to marry and stay in the UK, the student should have to go back to their own country and apply for a spouse visa, same as us brits, and if they have a bad immigration record they should get the same punishment as a brit and not just forgotten because their partner is a European exercising thier treaty rights.. it's all a 2 immgration systems in 1 country

[somebody]

Im amazed how many phill careworkers are here on student visas (along with those of many other nations) some im sure are aware of what they were coming here to do and others finding they have to work longer hours than they wish for various reasons.

Having met and sat with the lecturers of several small english college (you know the ones you see if you look upwards in central london above the shops!! The lessons are timed to help those working early late and 9-5 hours!!
The number of students these colleges have for the amount of classrooms is amazing surely these college owners should be put in charge of the British Education we could close most of the schools