The Great Evolution Deception Final Word

[Doc Alan]

I recommend Eset Anti-Virus...oh hang on, I thought this was a computer discussion.....sorry....

Not as much difference as you might think - one type of virus copies itself in computers !
Whoever created the viruses which copy themselves in cells made sure they would be successful , by giving them genes so they could evolve by natural selection. Antigenic shift results in influenza pandemics like "Spanish flu" which caused up to 100 million deaths in 1918/1919. Millions of people have died from AIDS due to a virus which mutated into HIV. Because viruses evolve, even when where vaccines are available, lasting immunity is not possible, and new antiviral drugs keep having to be developed. Facts, not opinion

[KeithD]

Not as much difference as you might think - one type of virus copies itself in computers !
Whoever created the viruses which copy themselves in cells made sure they would be successful , by giving them genes so they could evolve by natural selection. Antigenic shift results in influenza pandemics like "Spanish flu" which caused up to 100 million deaths in 1918/1919. Millions of people have died from AIDS due to a virus which mutated into HIV. Because viruses evolve, even when where vaccines are available, lasting immunity is not possible, and new antiviral drugs keep having to be developed. Facts, not opinion

Lies... all lies ..... they are all developed and released by the US Goverment ....

[Doc Alan]

Lies... all lies ..... they are all developed and released by the US Goverment ....

I can explain bugs, plants, animals .....but how did natural selection and survival of the fittest work to allow George Bush to be President ?

[aromulus]

I can explain bugs, plants, animals .....but how did natural selection and survival of the fittest work to allow George Bush to be President ?

Yeah....

Millions of sperm in the race....

And he was the winner....?

[KeithD]

Yeah....

Millions of sperm in the race....

And he was the winner....?

We may want to be thankful for that, the others could have been dumber

[somebody]

Yeah....

Millions of sperm in the race....

And he was the winner....?

Thats no way to speak about Mr Admin boss po lord master of all of Wales he can see

[John Chingford]

What an interesting thing to say although perhaps I should seek a definition of evolution

• development: a process in which something passes by degrees to a different stage (especially a more advanced or mature stage); "the development of ...
• (biology) the sequence of events involved in the evolutionary development of a species or taxonomic group of organisms

The first I guess could relate to for example evolution of a person from baby to old age and the different stages ,abilities , experiences in that process.

The second might relate for example in the physical and behavoral changes in a species like a Wolf to all of our current breeds of Dog for example is it one or both of these you dont agree with?

Okay, thanks for that KeithAngel. Let me clarify. I do not believe in the way evolution is presented ie the length of time it took and how one type of animal turned into another etc. There is much evidence (which is just as convincing) in archeological finds, fossils etc which could also be argued for a much younger Earth, ie that processes can work much faster than first thought. For example (on a much smaller scale) the Durham Canyon which "suddenly" appeared after floods.

However, I do accept that evolution happens within breeds of animals (such as a vast number of different types of dogs or cats etc). But as the Bible maintains, there is enough scientific evidence to show that dogs turned into dogs, cats into cats and humans into humans with all the variety within each species.

By the way, to the one who said that my blogsite said that the bible disproves evolution. I never said that. My site does not say that evolution is a myth. It simply states that the way evolution is taught is faulty and can be shown to be so through scientific evidence.

Regarding the one who said I did not want to answer the questions. I choose not to because I have already answered these questions on my two other threads with similar titles on the great evolution deception. On those threads I was asked to bring the discussion to an end, so this is the reason I will not debate this out of respect for him.

If you really want to know my answers then please visit my blogsite. Most of you are very intelligent, so I know that you will figure a way of finding my blogspot by googlesearch on the internet (even though reference to my site has now been removed. For those not interested then don't bother.

This has to be FINALLY my last word.

[keithAngel]

Look I was having a nice chat with John about his interesting Ideas, go away for a couple of days and youve scared him off I might have have learned some thing new I still dont know which definition he dodnt agree with or maybe there was something new !! Now we may never know

Sorry John we posted simultaneously how syncronistic is that wow!!!!

[KeithD]

I bet John doesn't even know how many Wise Men there were

[aromulus]

Looks like that our most vociferous members are not willing to be baited this time, John....

It doesn't mean that they are giving up....

[KeithD]

Bugger, the thread is no longer evolving

[keithAngel]

whos having the final word?

[Scouse]

whos having the final word?

I'll have a go.

Scientists do not try to prove theories, they try to disprove them.

Thomas Kuhn suggested that science has paradigms which are accepted and then others try to disprove them. This then leads to a new paradigm which is likely to come from outside of that particular discipline.

If the basis of the creationists argument is that it must be true becaus it says so in the bible, then I say god doesn't exist because I say so.

[aposhark]

who's having the final word?

Not me

For newcomers, the thread underneath could be interesting, although it is closed so nobody can post anymore.

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?t=16357

[keithAngel]

I just looked but strangely no final word there from a Mod

It also occured to me that perhaps days were longer then

[Doc Alan]

Guess you had the final word, Keith Angel ... until now ! The end is nigh

[Northerner]

Grrr.. This thread could have been good but the same old arguments pop up time and time again, and it gets boring disputing the same thing.

I am an Atheist, not because I choose to be, simply because I am! I require evidence and/or rational explanations from anyone who tells me that they know the creator of the Universe and what this creator wants us to dress like, eat, marry.. etc.

I have seen the best try their best on Youtube to convince people of the creationist argument. I have noted how the methods differ, whether they be through moral, pseudo-scientific or just good old "you're all going to Hell in a hand basket if you don't follow my way".. And as an ex Catholic, I have had enough of all three.

Anyway, here are some qustions for you John. Just have a good look at this video

[triple5]

Good video

Always wonderded this:

What will happen in the Afterlife to the people who never heard about your religion ?

I've never heard anybody from any religion answer this

[keithAngel]

You mean if its a really good deal we should stop or shoot evangalists for crimes against humanity and thats my last word ...........for now

[Northerner]

Good video

Always wonderded this:

What will happen in the Afterlife to the people who never heard about your religion ?

I've never heard anybody from any religion answer this

If they're honest, they will happily admit that all none believers are going to Hell. I had a debate with one of my housemates (who is a devout Muslim) and he happily told me that I and all none Muslims were going to Hell.

I also asked him if God was so just and wise, why did he only instruct a few sand dwelling people from the same part of the world, condemning all his other creations to hell until centuries later when they might happen to hear his message? that was left unanswered

[joebloggs]

If they're honest, they will happily admit that all none believers are going to Hell. I had a debate with one of my housemates (who is a devout Muslim) and he happily told me that I and all none Muslims were going to Hell.

i use to work with 2 Libyan brothers and one told me it was his duty to save me from going to hell , well if am hell-bound, i couldn't think of a better place to be, as i'll be with my step dad and younger brother

[KeithD]

Isn't HELL being a season ticket holder for Liverpool?

[joebloggs]

Isn't HELL being a season ticket holder for Liverpool?

and a hell of a season for Chelsea again when they fail to win the premiership

[aromulus]

and a hell of a season for Chelsea again when they fail to win the premiership

Oh, yeah...???

And on what do you base such an arrogant assumption...???

The season ain't finished yet, and the fat lady hasn't sung....

Just wait, and what will be will be, I won't be scared of saying "well done" if scumunited wins at the end.

[KeithD]

Fancy a Sunday drive to Mancland Dom.... I'll bring the baseball bats

[Arthur Little]

... and thats my last word ...........for now

... until you finally retired to bed at 3 o'clock in the morning, you mean? Keith, you're getting to be a bit of a 'night-owl' ... like ME!

[joebloggs]

Oh, yeah...???

And on what do you base such an arrogant assumption...???

The season ain't finished yet, and the fat lady hasn't sung....
[/SIZE]

based on a scouser called ROOOONEY

you mention this fat lady every year dom, but Chelsea keep losing

[joebloggs]

Fancy a Sunday drive to Mancland Dom.... I'll bring the baseball bats

are we all going to Heaton park for a bit of baseball

[keithAngel]

Is this tread evolving

[aposhark]

Is this tread evolving

Michelin and Continental are quite expensive, I prefer the budget tyres myself