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    Pinoy murderer who will die in UK jail

    There was an article in yesterdays Express about killers serving life sentences who will never be released - it mentioned this ghastly fella Victor Castigador ......burnt two security guards to death

    http://en.allexperts.com/e/v/v/v%C3%...castigador.htm


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    even though the European Court of Human Rights later ruled that whole life tariffs were unlawful if passed by a politician rather than a member of the judiciary.

    , some unelected European judge telling an elected British Home Secretary what to do

    the judge should be thinking about what he did and keeping him locked up.


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    I suppose that there will be far more Brits in Philippine jails than the other way around...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    I suppose that there will be far more Brits in Philippine jails than the other way around...
    only guilty ones you dont hear about these judges helping any brits ?? seems to me its just a court of criminal rights

    dom how many times have you read about the court of human rights over ruling the british gov after it has tried to deport illegal immigrants ?

    the british are known for the fair play, unlike most countries


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    the british are known for the fair play,
    Yeah, where has it gone then...???

    Where is my vote on the foxes gone...?
    Where is my vote on Europe gone...?

    Why am I watched by hundreds of cameras, every time I step out shopping...?

    Why does it have to cost £5 extra to pay for your gas if you do it online by debit card, while it doesn't, if you sign up with direct debit...?

    Why hang on to an innocent person's DNA for so many years...?


    And so on, and on, and on...........And on..........


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    Yeah, where has it gone then...???

    Where is my vote on the foxes gone...?
    Where is my vote on Europe gone...?

    Why am I watched by hundreds of cameras, every time I step out shopping...?

    Why does it have to cost £5 extra to pay for your gas if you do it online by debit card, while it doesn't, if you sign up with direct debit...?

    Why hang on to an innocent person's DNA for so many years...?


    And so on, and on, and on...........And on..........
    why should people have a vote on fox hunting ? what about badger baiting, cock and dog fighting etc ?? people think its ok in a civilised society

    yes euro vote, where is mine

    as for the camera's maybe you look shifty dom

    it doesnt bother me if they hold my dna, i'm sure it will make some people think twice b4 committing a crime and the crime rate will drop


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    That article raises a very interesting point with which I agree, "European Court of Human Rights later ruled that whole life tariffs were unlawful if passed by a politician rather than a member of the judiciary". The trouble is that we are let down by the judiciary who, because they are all drawn from such a narrow social class, don't seem to live in the same world as the rest of us.

    This is how things went totally wrong with the sentencing in the James Bulger case. The presiding judge set an 8 years minimum tarrif, which was then increased by the Lord Chief Justice of the day to 10 years. Then the home secretary of the day Michael Howard (for purely populist reasons in my opinion) increased it to 15 years which left the door open for a challenge in the European court of human rights.

    They were initially sentenced to be detained at her majesty's pleasure with a recommendation that they should be kept in custody for "very, very many years to come", with an 8 years, increased to 10 years minimum tarrif and if Michael Howard hadn't of interfered they would have served at least 10 years instead of getting out after only 8 years once the ECHR had become involved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    This is how things went totally wrong with the sentencing in the James Bulger case. The presiding judge set an 8 years minimum tarrif, which was then increased by the Lord Chief Justice of the day to 10 years. Then the home secretary of the day Michael Howard (for purely populist reasons in my opinion) increased it to 15 years which left the door open for a challenge in the European court of human rights.
    i would have thought that most people would want them to serve 15yrs minimum in prison and not 8yrs in some care home, for what they did to that little boy, imagine if it was your son ? 8yrs in a home , released back on the streets , and not serve one day in prison

    yes the family of Bulger were let down by the justice system and the Court of human rights


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    That article raises a very interesting point with which I agree, "European Court of Human Rights later ruled that whole life tariffs were unlawful if passed by a politician rather than a member of the judiciary". The trouble is that we are let down by the judiciary who, because they are all drawn from such a narrow social class, don't seem to live in the same world as the rest of us.

    This is how things went totally wrong with the sentencing in the James Bulger case. The presiding judge set an 8 years minimum tarrif, which was then increased by the Lord Chief Justice of the day to 10 years. Then the home secretary of the day Michael Howard (for purely populist reasons in my opinion) increased it to 15 years which left the door open for a challenge in the European court of human rights.

    They were initially sentenced to be detained at her majesty's pleasure with a recommendation that they should be kept in custody for "very, very many years to come", with an 8 years, increased to 10 years minimum tarrif and if Michael Howard hadn't of interfered they would have served at least 10 years instead of getting out after only 8 years once the ECHR had become involved.
    IMHO European Court of Human Rights should leave us to deal how we see fit with murdering scum. Wouldn't be up for debate if murderers swung upon conviction


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