BA Union Boss puts it about in sleazy Bangkok bar

[Dedworth]

BA cabin crew are some of the best paid in the industry. If they don't like their jobs, they should just go and find a new one! We're in a recession. The rest of us have had to cope with pay cuts, redundancies and changes in working practices. Why should they be any different, just because their work has a direct impact on the public?

These type of militant unions are an anachronism. I agree that in the past, unions have had a huge positive impact on workers rights, workplace safety, fair wages, etc. They still have their place today, but not to the extent of calling strikes.

I have zero sympathy with the BA cabin crew.

I've a mate who's a Qualified BA Aircraft Engineer at Heathrow and there is precious little sympathy there for these overpaid waiters and waitresses - some of the so called "Cabin Service Directors" are on £70000 a year responsible for serving a few First Class passengers and pressing the reset button on the entertainment system

[joebloggs]

I've a mate who's a Qualified BA Aircraft Engineer at Heathrow and there is precious little sympathy there for these overpaid waiters and waitresses - some of the so called "Cabin Service Directors" are on £70000 a year responsible for serving a few First Class passengers and pressing the reset button on the entertainment system

http://www.mysalary.co.uk/average-salary/Cabin_Crew_430

Salary Location Date
£20,000 London 22-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,500 South East 31-January-10
£18,000 London 28-January-10
£22,000 East of England 22-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£30,000 London 18-October-09
£30,000 London 12-October-09

not many people getting 70k there

[Dedworth]

http://www.mysalary.co.uk/average-salary/Cabin_Crew_430

Salary Location Date
£20,000 London 22-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,500 South East 31-January-10
£18,000 London 28-January-10
£22,000 East of England 22-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£30,000 London 18-October-09
£30,000 London 12-October-09

not many people getting 70k there

Not many CSD wages quoted . As inferred by Jamesey if it is such a crap number why don't they jack it in and pitch up at Virgin or Sleazy Jet ?

[joebloggs]

DEDWORTH BEEN TO GOGO BARS

who cares if you or any union leaders have been to a gogo bar

so i take it you've never been a union member

i haven't, you see every place i've worked at didn't have a union, maybe if they did workers wouldn't be treated like sometimes.

of course there are union leaders, and sometimes they are wrong, but if it wasn't for the union and the labour party , many people would be working for

you must have heard of an 1890ish parody on what Life was Like on a Mountain Railway, ca. 1870 called Miner's Lifeguard

Miner's life is like a sailor's.
'Board a ship to cross the waves.
Ev'ry day his life's in danger,
Still he ventures being brave.
Watch the rocks, they're falling daily.
Careless miners always fail.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

cho: Union miners stand together,
Heed no operator's tale,
Keep your hand upon the dollar,
And your eye upon the scale.

Soon this trouble will be ended,
Union men will have their rights.
After many years of bondage
Digging days and digging nights;
Then by honest weight we labor
Union workers never fail.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

Let no union man be weakened
By newspapers' false reports,
Be like sailors on the ocean
Trusting in their safe lifeboats.
Let your lifeboat be Jehovah
Those who trust Him never fail.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

You've been docked and docked, my boys,
You've been loading two to one;
What have you to show for working
Since this mining has begun?
Overalls and cans for rockers,
In your shanties, sleep on rails.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

In conclusion, bear in memory,
Keep the password in your mind:
God provides for every nation
When in union they combine.
Stand like men and linked together,
Victory for you'll prevail,
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

pitty more than 100 yrs later much hasn't changed for some workers

[Dedworth]

DEDWORTH BEEN TO GOGO BARS

who cares if you or any union leaders have been to a gogo bar

I do because this fella proves himself to be a typical Labour hypocrite - all "Wimmins Rites" when he's gobbing off at the TUC Congress, but "how much for long time" when he's getting gushed up in the Ping Pong Banana Club.

These Cabin Crew are so exploited and underpaid that many of them aren't bothering to strike.

[joebloggs]

I do because this fella proves himself to be a typical Labour hypocrite - all "Wimmins Rites" when he's gobbing off at the TUC Congress, but "how much for long time" when he's getting gushed up in the Ping Pong Banana Club.

These Cabin Crew are so exploited and underpaid that many of them aren't bothering to strike.

when you've got a family to feed, and your'e not a member of a union, your on your own, you put up with it or you go, thats your choice, not much of a choice when you've got bills to pay and a family to feed thou...

don't tell me dedworth employers dont rip employees off ? , if you think that your on another planet

i've seen the abuse, i was a victim of it, i've had to take 2 employers to tribunals to get the wages i was owed.

[Dedworth]

when you've got a family to feed, and your'e not a member of a union, your on your own, you put up with it or you go, thats your choice, not much of a choice when you've got bills to pay and a family to feed thou...

don't tell me dedworth employers dont rip employees off ? , if you think that your on another planet

i've seen the abuse, i was a victim of it, i've had to take 2 employers to tribunals to get the wages i was owed.

Accepted it has and does go on but I'm afraid this thread has strayed away from what I intended which is the blatant hypocrisy and I'm Allright Jack attitude of Simpson & Pye - a world away from the day to day low pay drudgery of some of their members (except if you are a BA Cabin Crew lording it in 5 star hotels on bloated allowances)