Why this country is rapidly going down the toilet

[joebloggs]

Gkad your back Nigel youve been missed

nigel's treatment must have finished

still optimistic as ever

[adam&chryss]

If you heard the interview on Radio 2 you`ll know that the do-gooding tree hugging hippie vegetarian brigade called in a few times and they made quite clear that every animal should be treated the same no matter how large or small. They agreed with the punishment she received.
Without them lot this country would be alot better. One of my work mates step-son has been in and out of court for the last few years but never locked up. He`s 21 now I beleive. Its the do-gooders that find another reason for someone to commit a crime other than the fact that they`re scum. The last thing he did was filling up a supermarket trolley and leaving without paying. The good value was about £200. Still not locked up though. Everyone know he needs to go to prison and have a good kicking or and then maybe he`ll change. Currently he has no detterent. Thanks do-gooders

[joebloggs]

If you heard the interview on Radio 2 you`ll know that the do-gooding tree hugging hippie vegetarian brigade called in a few times and they made quite clear that every animal should be treated the same no matter how large or small. They agreed with the punishment she received.
Without them lot this country would be alot better. One of my work mates step-son has been in and out of court for the last few years but never locked up. He`s 21 now I beleive. Its the do-gooders that find another reason for someone to commit a crime other than the fact that they`re scum. The last thing he did was filling up a supermarket trolley and leaving without paying. The good value was about £200. Still not locked up though. Everyone know he needs to go to prison and have a good kicking or and then maybe he`ll change. Currently he has no detterent. Thanks do-gooders

i've been a vegetarian most of my life, and i'm not a hippie, or a tree hugger

but like i said before, go to any country that doesn't have animals rights and see the abuse and then come back and tell me you still think the same

i'll not post any links because it might put you off your tea

don't blame the veggies for letting people off lightly, thats because the prisons are full, if you dont want to do the time, dont do the crime

[adam&chryss]

Ever been fishing Joe? As a kid? Did you see what kids do to fish sometimes?
If you`re after bait, dead or alive to catch pike its not nice. Some they rip the hooks from the fish and leave their mouths torn apart. If its swallowed the hook then the guts get pulled out too. A lovely sight. It happens all the time but kids arnt banned from fishing or given asbos for doing it.
I`m assuming the people that sell them a fishing licence are adults just like the shopkeeper?
Maybe we should have some river police to stop it happening. That would be a nice way spend more taxes.
Its laughable that someone could possibly be in prison for " wrongly selling a goldfish to a minor"
I remember how bad society was years ago when I use to go to the fair and win a goldfish. All the knife crime and violence, hmmmm.

[joebloggs]

nope never fished in my life .

as for the goldfish, what if it was a puppy or a parrot ? does it make any difference, you want to exclude fish ?

wrongly selling ? they didnt ask his age, is that an excuse ? not asking..

Under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 it is illegal to sell pets - including goldfish - to children under the age of 16 unless they are accompanied by an adult


if they knew this then its their own fault, just like those who sell glue, knifes, fireworks, cigs or booze to under age kids, there is obviously a reason why they have the animal welfare act, yes she should have got fined, its ridiculous to tag her thou.

now if your 14yr old came home with a puppy that they had bought from a pet shop, would you be complaining then ?

They sent the 14-year-old schoolboy into the shop to carry out a test purchase and Mr Higgins sold him the goldfish without questioning his age or providing any information about the care of the fish.

A council officer in the shop at the time also noticed a cockatiel in a cage that appeared to be in a poor state of health. A vet found the bird had a broken leg and eye problems. It was later put down.



Mrs Higgins and her son were charged with selling the fish to a person aged under 16 and with causing unnecessary suffering to a cockatiel by failing to provide appropriate care and treatment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-goldfish.html

now you still think she should not have been charged with anything ?? i would be if my daughter came home with a goldfish or puppy without me or my misses being there..

[adam&chryss]

nope never fished in my life .

as for the goldfish, what if it was a puppy or a parrot ? does it make any difference, you want to exclude fish ?

wrongly selling ? they didnt ask his age, is that an excuse ? not asking..

Under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 it is illegal to sell pets - including goldfish - to children under the age of 16 unless they are accompanied by an adult


if they knew this then its their own fault, just like those who sell glue, knifes, fireworks, cigs or booze to under age kids, there is obviously a reason why they have the animal welfare act, yes she should have got fined, its ridiculous to tag her thou.

now if your 14yr old came home with a puppy that they had bought from a pet shop, would you be complaining then ?

They sent the 14-year-old schoolboy into the shop to carry out a test purchase and Mr Higgins sold him the goldfish without questioning his age or providing any information about the care of the fish.

A council officer in the shop at the time also noticed a cockatiel in a cage that appeared to be in a poor state of health. A vet found the bird had a broken leg and eye problems. It was later put down.



Mrs Higgins and her son were charged with selling the fish to a person aged under 16 and with causing unnecessary suffering to a cockatiel by failing to provide appropriate care and treatment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-goldfish.html

now you still think she should not have been charged with anything ?? i would be if my daughter came home with a goldfish or puppy without me or my misses being there..

I understand she should be charged with the cockatiel part, of course animal suffering isnt good. Just as the girl with learning difficulties shouldnt have been sold the hamster or whatever it was. God only knows why a girl like that was out alone if her disability was that bad.
I dont suppose her parents or carers got into trouble.
The goldfish hadnt been harmed and there was no reason to beleive it had been especially as the kid was sent in by the authorities.
So as it stands you cant buy a goldfish if you`re under 16 and not with your parents but you can go to a fair, of which there are many soon, and win one and its ok?
I dont know if thats true but like if it is then it really is up!

[joebloggs]

well some laws in this country are really , thats with having British laws and Euro laws, soon or later one will have to go

i wouldn't want my kids coming home with a puppy or kitten or any pet, then having to try and get the pet shop to take it back,also what about those who buy a puppy or kitten for xmas then when they are bored with it, throw it on the streets

as my misses says, prevention is better than a cure.. so no kids should be able to buy an animal on their own, it makes common sense, and if pet shop owners need fining then its thier fault..

[fred]

Ever been fishing Joe? As a kid? Did you see what kids do to fish sometimes?
If you`re after bait, dead or alive to catch pike its not nice. Some they rip the hooks from the fish and leave their mouths torn apart. If its swallowed the hook then the guts get pulled out too. A lovely sight. It happens all the time but kids arnt banned from fishing or given asbos for doing it.
I`m assuming the people that sell them a fishing licence are adults just like the shopkeeper?
Maybe we should have some river police to stop it happening. That would be a nice way spend more taxes.
Its laughable that someone could possibly be in prison for " wrongly selling a goldfish to a minor"
I remember how bad society was years ago when I use to go to the fair and win a goldfish. All the knife crime and violence, hmmmm.

Yeah!! Guilty as charged..There was no way I was risking sticking my hand anywhere near that Pikes gob..Rip the thing out!! We used to catch em with spinners BTW.
So cant you win a Gold fish at a fair these days?

[joebloggs]

So cant you win a Gold fish at a fair these days?

yes you can, i've seen them, but whether they will let a kid have one without an adult i dont know..

fred i've seen some really bad animal cruelty in the phils, especially in a 'zoo' and in a pet shop , the zoo , soon as i got back home, i tried to find if there was any organisation i could complain to it was that bad.. even my misses was shocked

cock fighting was banned in England in 1835, but with people starving who gives a about animal rights

[Sim11UK]

Winning goldfish at fairs, Is pretty much down to local councils, a fair is visiting. I have some knowledge of this, but I think there are still grey areas.

It will probably be banned soon?

From what I've heard & know, many Showmen are keen to dispense good advice about care of goldfish, that have been won on their stalls.

...Probably many don't?