"Spoilt Rotten" BBC Panorama

[joebloggs]

IMO, a lot of the blame can be laid at the doors of too many working mums ... leaving young kids free to roam the streets after school - then feeding them ready-made junk-foods at teatime - following which, they're allowed still more liberty to watch totally unsuitable and inane programmes on television.

sounds like you've been spying on me

you cant blame the moms for working Arthur, many dont have a choice they have to work to pay the bills

[triple5]

many dont have a choice they have to work to pay the bills

Although that's true in a lot of cases, for many its all about the lifestyle. They want the big house, 2 cars, nice holidays and to keep up with the Joneses. A lot of these working mothers could easily downgrade and stay at home.

[johncar54]

Although that's true in a lot of cases, for many its all about the lifestyle. They want the big house, 2 cars, nice holidays and to keep up with the Joneses. A lot of these working mothers could easily downgrade and stay at home.

Yes Triple5 I think you have hit the nail. People have been brainwashed into 'knowing' that they really 'need' the consumer products which at one time were considered luxuries are now seen as necessities.

I remember some years ago that UK had both the highest employment but also the highest unemployment levels in Europe. Seems an impossible situation but in UK almost all married women were registered workers unlike the rest of Europe.

[Arthur Little]

Although that's true in a lot of cases, for many its all about the lifestyle. They want the big house, 2 cars, nice holidays and to keep up with the Joneses. A lot of these working mothers could easily downgrade and stay at home.

Well, speaking for my own mother, SHE gave up work on getting married in 1941 ... three years before I [the elder of two brothers] was born. She only decided to take (what she called) a "wee job" again in 1968 ... a few months after my wedding ... and then had to give it up in 1976 at the age of 60 - which was the statutory retiral age for women back in those days.

I have to say that my younger brother and I benefitted in a great many respects from our mother being at home for us returning from school. Oh sure, plenty other kids' *mums were out working ... even in the 1950s ... but *THEY were the ones that DID want all the "trappings" of the "good life" - for no reason other than to "keep up with the Joneses" as Triple has mentioned above. So yes, Joe - whilst I accept the "needs must" plea in SOME cases, there are many more married women (with pre-school-age children) to whom this argument does NOT apply, since the husband and father is already earning a salary that is adequately sufficient to support his wife and young family.

[Ann07]

I feel so sorry for the kids in the programme I'm a working mum too ( partime) but i make sure i dont overfeed or give my boys junk foods.

[aromulus]

you cant blame the moms for working Arthur, many dont have a choice they have to work to pay the bills

In Manchester and Liverpool, lots of mums have to leave their kids in nursery before going to school....

[Arthur Little]

In Manchester and Liverpool, lots of mums have to leave their kids in nursery before going to school....

Sadly, not only in Manchester and Liverpool ... the ENTIRE country seems to be "awash" with underage mums these days!

[joebloggs]

It's scary what's happening to some kids in the UK. The benefits culture and consumerism has spawned some right brats. I'm sure a lot of mental illness and depression is down to people having had pampered childhoods, then finding the reality of adulthood - and having to stand on their own two feet - isn't a bed of roses.

In Manchester and Liverpool, lots of mums have to leave their kids in nursery before going to school....

well wait a few years they could be both at the same school

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so i wonder if the HO have access to