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    Political Leaders Tonights TV Debate

    Apparently it is being broadcast from Manchester. They've just said on the radio that Bottler Brown is already at the TV Studio - no doubt mulling over which pair of brown trousers he's going to wear


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    I hate all this "immigration from outside the EU".
    We should treat immigrants the same no matter what country they come from.
    I know if I was in hospital i`d prefer a ward of Filipina nurses than Romanian!
    Filipinas are good nurses and caregivers and they shouldnt be punished just `cos they arnt from the EU.
    At this moment I think Cleggy is doing the best but it doesnt mean i`d vote for him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adam&chryss View Post
    I hate all this "immigration from outside the EU".
    We should treat immigrants the same no matter what country they come from.
    I know if I was in hospital i`d prefer a ward of Filipina nurses than Romanian!
    Filipinas are good nurses and caregivers and they shouldnt be punished just `cos they arnt from the EU.
    At this moment I think Cleggy is doing the best but it doesnt mean i`d vote for him.
    You are partially right but a lot of Romanians don't need to work here as they seem particularly adept at ATM Scams, Shoplifting and Pickpocketing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    You are partially right but a lot of Romanians don't need to work here as they seem particularly adept at ATM Scams, Shoplifting and Pickpocketing
    I couldnt agree more with that.


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    Although all of us posting here have a special affinity with the Philippines we cannot escape the fact that anyone who holds a EU passport has a right to work here, almost without exception and the same applies to us going there. We think of them as immigrants but if we consider them as EU citizens then they are not. We might regret it, and as a previous owner of a care home I can confirm that a Filipina is usually an excellent carer, there is little that can be done. Folk from outside the EU are immigrants, whilst those within it are not. They are not the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David House View Post
    Although all of us posting here have a special affinity with the Philippines we cannot escape the fact that anyone who holds a EU passport has a right to work here, almost without exception and the same applies to us going there. We think of them as immigrants but if we consider them as EU citizens then they are not. We might regret it, and as a previous owner of a care home I can confirm that a Filipina is usually an excellent carer, there is little that can be done. Folk from outside the EU are immigrants, whilst those within it are not. They are not the same.
    Does it work the same way regarding benefits?
    Like they can come here and claim them and also we can go to their country and claims there too?
    The more I hear about the EU , the less I like it.


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    I am surprised with the result of that debate as I was expecting that Cameron would be on top. As all newspapers, TV news and internet, Cameron is leading. But this debate should lead him to exit.
    I'm afraid that if he wins, the immigration will be his first priority and not economic recovery.
    He always look up in the sky.

    I am not into politics, but if I have privelege to vote, i'll vote for labour or maybe Libdem but definitely not the Conservatives.


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    I think you will find that who-ever wins will face the same problems and will have to take drastic action. I really don't see that the conservatives will tackle immigration any differently in practice. What is being said is window dressing to keep some of those with more extreme attitudes within their camp and stop defections to the BNP. There will be greater priorities than immigration and all politicians know very well that the UK needs a net increase in immigration to sustain the economy, but cannot say so openly. The real issues are all to do with how to cut the deficit and when to do it. I see no choice other than to make severe cut backs in many public services, some of which are stupidly over mannned, and over paid with ridiculous pension benefits. No political party can openly talk about this but that is particularly true of labour who know their funding from Unite would dry up if they threatened the cuts we need. If we get another labour government I fear we will never take the steps we need to cure this mess. Brown flirted with the City, and got into trouble. Now he cannot give us the medicine we need to cure it.
    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    I am surprised with the result of that debate as I was expecting that Cameron would be on top. As all newspapers, TV news and internet, Cameron is leading. But this debate should lead him to exit.
    I'm afraid that if he wins, the immigration will be his first priority and not economic recovery.
    He always look up in the sky.

    I am not into politics, but if I have privelege to vote, i'll vote for labour or maybe Libdem but definitely not the Conservatives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David House View Post
    There will be greater priorities than immigration and all politicians know very well that the UK needs a net increase in immigration to sustain the economy, but cannot say so openly.
    Would that be managed and controlled immigration or as currently which seems to consist of unskilled males under 30 who after abandoning their wives and children thousands of miles away arrive passportless in the back of a truck ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Would that be managed and controlled immigration or as currently which seems to consist of unskilled males under 30 who after abandoning their wives and children thousands of miles away arrive passportless in the back of a truck ?
    But none of the leaders are discussing that kind of immigration, David Cameron can set an annual cap on immigration at any level he likes, but it won't affect illegal immigration.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    But none of the leaders are discussing that kind of immigration, David Cameron can set an annual cap on immigration at any level he likes, but it won't affect illegal immigration.
    erm I think the Tories have stated this

    We will work to prevent illegal migration with a dedicated Border Police Force to crack down on illegal immigration and people trafficking
    We will introduce important new rules to tighten up the student visa system, which at the moment is the biggest hole in our border controls

    At the moment any so called "asylum seeker" spotted by Mr Plod climbing out of the back of a forty footer at Watford Gap Services is given a cup of tea and his taxi fare to the nearest Benefits Office


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