about dna test

[Ana_may365]

HELP PLSSSSS....
are there anybody here has a problem about dna test?
coz our friend has a problem about this.is any body knows about the ponderosa hotel in angeles that does the dna test?is it accept by the british embassy in manila/taquig?coz somebody told them that they need used only the st.lukes hospital but it cause a lot of money.

[September]

Yes, Ana the only legal hosp is St Lukes, I'm afraid..and would you mind to share that case to us...if you dont fell to share thats fine

[GaryFifer]

i was need to know this too. let me know what happens, as I was going to send DNA test in mail.

[johncar54]

i was need to know this too. let me know what happens, as I was going to send DNA test in mail.

From a logical point of view, how can anyone confirm that the sample was taken from a particular person if sent by mail?

If I wanted to 'prove' my gf's baby was mine, and I knew it was not, then all I would need to do is take sample from another child of mine and send that, claiming it was from the gf's baby !

[GaryFifer]

From a logical point of view, how can anyone confirm that the sample was taken from a particular person if sent by mail?

If I wanted to 'prove' my gf's baby was mine, and I knew it was not, then all I would need to do is take sample from another child of mine and send that, claiming it was from the gf's baby !

Ok I get your point, but I have one baby only. So what is so special about St Lukes. Any one have information about this further?

[sars_notd_virus]

HELP PLSSSSS....
are there anybody here has a problem about dna test?
.

hope this helps:
http://ph.88db.com/Health-and-Medica...ent/ad-431718/

[johncar54]

hope this helps:
http://ph.88db.com/Health-and-Medica...ent/ad-431718/

I don't think helps as what was being asked was 'What is required by UK consulate?'

September said only a result from St Luke's is accepted

[sars_notd_virus]

I don't think helps as what was being asked was 'What is required by UK consulate?'

September said only a result from St Luke's is accepted

oh yeah if that's what u think so

[sars_notd_virus]

I don't think helps as what was being asked was 'What is required by UK consulate?'

Being rude to a co-member here doesn't help either we r entitled to our opinions and advice the best we can.

[/QUOTE]September said only a result from St Luke's is accepted[/QUOTE]

It doesn't state here that only St Luke's Hospital is the only accepted ...am sure there will be options

Updated 2009

CONSULAR SECTION

British Embassy Manila

120 Upper McKinley Road, McKinley Hill, Taguig City 1634

Tel: +63 2 858 2200 / Fax: +63 2 858 2342

Updated: January 2009

Email: CONS-Manila@fco.gov.uk / Website: http://ukinthephilippines.fco.gov.uk


CONSULAR BIRTH REGISTRATIONS

A Consular Birth Registration is not a legal requirement, but it is recommended.

Births outside the Philippines will need to be forwarded to the relevant British Embassy post for registering.

The advantages are that

o A British style birth certificate is available as evidence of British nationality
o A record of the birth will afterwards be held in the General Registry Office in the United Kingdom. Further copies can be obtained from the General Registry Office




Procedures and requirements:

o Applicants born in the Philippines, on/after 01 July 2006 (See ANNEX A)
o Applicants born in the Philippines, before 01 July 2006 to unmarried parents who subsequently marry (See ANNEX B)
o Applicants born in the Philippines, before 01 July 2006 to unmarried parents, where the father is a British citizen, and are still unmarried (See ANNEX C)



Please note that additional documents may be required while the application is being processed.


Useful Contacts:

(For Philippine Birth, Marriage & other civil registry document)

National Statistics Office

Civil Registration Department

Vibal Building, EDSA

Quezon City 1104

Hotline: +632 737 1111

Website: www.e-census.com.ph

Email: e-census.info@mail.census.gov.ph
(For enquiries about UK birth, death, marriage and civil partnership)

Consular Directorate

Foreign and Commonwealth Office

Room G38, Old Admiralty Building

London SW1A 2PA

Tel: +0044 207 008 0186

Email: bmdenquiries@fco.gov.uk

(Requests for duplicate of naturalisation certificate)

Nationality Enquiries Team

Immigration and Nationality Directorate

Home Office

PO Box 306

Liverpool

L69 2UX


ANNEX A


* For applicants born on/after 1st July 2006 to parents who are married/unmarried, where the British citizen father is named on the local birth certificate within a year of the child’s birth, and the mother is NOT married to someone else.



COMPULSORY DOCUMENTS

(Please present ORIGINAL documents and photocopies of each document)

o Birth Certificate on NSO (National Statistics Office) Security paper
o Parents’ birth certificates

British parent: submit full/long UK birth certificate or Birth Registration/Naturalisation certificate

Philippine born parent: submit NSO birth certificate

o If applicable, parents’ marriage certificate – submit NSO marriage certificate if married in the Philippines and evidence of termination of any previous marriage (divorce decree nisi, annulment)
o Submit CENOMAR (Certificate of No Marriage Record) for Philippine citizen parent if not married to the British parent of the applicant
o If parents are not married, mother’s written consent to the issuance of a passport to her child
o If applicable, father’s/mother’s death certificate
o Birth certificates of all other brothers and sisters (applicant’s siblings), if applicable
o Both parents’ passports from around the time of applicant’s birth
o Current or previous passports held by applicant including any passport s/he was included on and/or used to travel to the Philippines, if applicable



ADDITIONAL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS

(Please present ORIGINAL documents and photocopies of each document)

o Mother’s antenatal/postnatal/delivery notes, scans and ultrasounds from hospital. If unable to obtain original records, please submit copies, which have been attested by the hospital.
o School records from Nursery to University, as applicable
o Local photo identity documents e.g. voter’s card , driving license, bank cards, etc
o Applicant’s life photographs (ideally not digitised photos), to include
o Photographs as a baby with parents in the UK (if applicable)
o Photographs on return to the country (where application is being made)
o Photographs of applicant growing up in the UK/country where making the application; with parents and siblings
o If married, wedding photos
o Parents’ UK documents (one year before and up to two years after applicant’s birth)
o Documents with regards to applicant’s change of name
o Sworn affidavit, deed poll and newspaper cutting with regards to change of name (including adding or dropping names);
o Marriage certificate and wedding photographs, if name change is through marriage
o Complete a Consular Birth Registration form



Fees to be paid : Fee 33 – Registering a birth

Fee 35 – Providing a copy of an entry in the Consular register of births



If you are unable to provide some of the documents mentioned above or if there are any doubts regarding the application, you may be required to attend an interview and/or require you to do a D.N.A. test to prove the relationship between parents and applicant (child).



ANNEX B


* For applicants born before 1st July 2006 to unmarried parents, whose claim to British nationality is through the father only and whose parents subsequently marry after the child’s birth:

COMPULSORY DOCUMENTS

(Please present ORIGINAL documents and photocopies of each document)

o Birth Certificate on NSO (National Statistics Office) Security paper
o Parents’ birth certificates

British parent: submit full/long UK birth certificate or Birth Registration/Naturalisation certificate

Philippine born parent: submit NSO birth certificate

o If applicable, parents’ marriage certificate – submit NSO marriage certificate if married in the Philippines and evidence of termination of any previous marriage (divorce decree nisi, annulment)
o If applicable, father’s/mother’s death certificate
o Birth certificates of all other brothers and sisters (applicant’s siblings), if applicable
o Both parents’ passports from around the time of applicant’s birth
o Current or previous passports held by applicant including any passport s/he was included on and/or used to travel to the Philippines, if applicable

ADDITIONAL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS

(Please present ORIGINAL documents and photocopies of each document)

o Mother’s antenatal/postnatal/delivery notes, scans and ultrasounds from hospital. If unable to obtain original records, please submit copies, which have been attested by the hospital.
o School records from Nursery to University, as applicable
o Applicant’s life photographs (ideally not digitised photos), to include
o Photographs as a baby with parents in the UK (if applicable)
o Photographs on return to the country (where application is being made)
o Photographs of applicant growing up in the UK/country where making the application; with parents and siblings
o If married, wedding photos
o Parents’ UK documents (one year before and up to two years after applicant’s birth)
o Documents with regards to applicant’s change of name
o Sworn affidavit, deed poll and newspaper cutting with regards to change of name (including adding or dropping names);
o Marriage certificate and wedding photographs, if name change is through marriage
o Complete a Consular Birth Registration form
o Both parents must sign declarations of paternity (mother/father) in front of a Consular officer
o The father must complete a domicile questionnaire

The purpose of this is to establish whether the father has retained a domicile in the UK (this basically means close connections in the UK) and can therefore benefit from the provisions of British nationality law. We will send the completed domicile questionnaire and documentation our Desk Officer in the Nationality and Consular Registration Section in London. Those applying should expect to receive a decision in approximately 8 weeks.

Fees to be paid : Fee 33 – Registering a birth

Fee 35 – Providing a copy of an entry in the Consular register of births


If you are unable to provide some of the documents mentioned above or if there are any doubts regarding the application, you may be required to attend an interview and/or require you to do a D.N.A. test to prove the relationship between parents and applicant (child).


ANNEX C


* For applicants born before 1st July 2006, who are under 18 years old, to a British father (born in the UK) and parents were NOT married at the time the children was born, and are still not married. This application will be forwarded to the Home Office for decision. This would take 4-6 months to process but timings cannot be guaranteed.

COMPULSORY DOCUMENTS

(Please present ORIGINAL documents and photocopies of each document)

o Birth Certificate on NSO (National Statistics Office) Security paper
o Parents’ birth certificates

British parent: submit full/long UK birth certificate or Birth Registration/Naturalisation certificate

Philippine born parent: submit NSO birth certificate

o Submit CENOMAR (Certificate of No Marriage Record) for Philippine citizen parent
o If applicable, father’s/mother’s death certificate
o Birth certificates of all other brothers and sisters (applicant’s siblings), if applicable
o Both parents’ passports from around the time of applicant’s birth
o Current or previous passports held by applicant including any passport s/he was included on and/or used to travel to the Philippines, if applicabl


ADDITIONAL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS

(Please present ORIGINAL documents and photocopies of each document)

o Mother’s antenatal/postnatal/delivery notes, scans and ultrasounds from hospital. If unable to obtain original records, please submit copies, which have been attested by the hospital.
o School records from Nursery to University, as applicable
o Applicant’s life photographs (ideally not digitised photos), to include
o Photographs as a baby with parents in the UK (if applicable)
o Photographs on return to the country (where application is being made)
o Photographs of applicant growing up in the UK/country where making the application; with parents and siblings
o If married, wedding photos
o Parents’ UK documents (one year before and up to two years after applicant’s birth)
o Documents with regards to applicant’s change of name
o Sworn affidavit, deed poll and newspaper cutting with regards to change of name (including adding or dropping names);
o Marriage certificate and wedding photographs, if name change is through marriage
o Complete the MN1 form (MN1 guide)
o Both parents must sign declarations of paternity (mother/father) in front of a Consular officer
o Mother’s written consent to the registration



Fees to be paid: Fee 5 – Supplying witness (Father’s declaration)

Fee 5 – Supplying witness (Mother’s declaration)

Fee 39 – Forwarding an application for registration to the Home Office

Home Office Registration Fee

(Peso equivalent computed at the FCO Consular exchange rate for the month)


If you are unable to provide some of the documents mentioned above or if there are any doubts regarding the application, you may be required to attend an interview and/or require you to do a D.N.A. test to prove the relationship between parents and applicant (child).


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[johncar54]

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Sars, I am sorry you misunderstood me.

I was not being rude but as the URL you supplied referred to postal tests, I was pointing out that such tests would, almost certainly, not be accepted by UK consulate as they could so easily be manipulated.

Rather like someone sending fingerprints in the post to get a certificate to confirm who they are.

Unless the test proves the continuity of the chain (who the sample came from) it would prove nothing. That is why when in UK one applies for a passport, in UK at least, someone needs to certify that the photo is a good likeness of the applicant and that the details are believed to be correct.

[sars_notd_virus]

ok no problem john

[sars_notd_virus]

For Ana_365 and Garyfifer:

here's the website:
http://www.nsri.upd.edu.ph/

http://www.dnaforensic.org/

research labs, such as the National Science Research Institute in UP Diliman, offer DNA testing services (forensics, paternity cases etc).

i have no idea abt how much it would cost, it depends on what you want to have done.

it can take a week at least, depending on the test. testing is done by comparing specific segments in your DNA that either correlate to parentage or identity.

[joebloggs]

http://ph.88db.com/Health-and-Medica...ent/ad-431718/Order a free DNA kit now and take your own samples at home quickly and painlessly. Send the samples back to us for analysis. results within 2-3 weeks

Sars, I am sorry you misunderstood me.

I was not being rude but as the URL you supplied referred to postal tests, I was pointing out that such tests would, almost certainly, not be accepted by UK consulate as they could so easily be manipulated.

Rather like someone sending fingerprints in the post to get a certificate to confirm who they are.

Unless the test proves the continuity of the chain (who the sample came from) it would prove nothing. That is why when in UK one applies for a passport, in UK at least, someone needs to certify that the photo is a good likeness of the applicant and that the details are believed to be correct.

John what you say is true, but a postal test will still prove whether your the childs father or not, the result may not be accepted by the embassy, but i'm sure the result would be good enough for most people to accept, without having to go to the phils or paying for a more expensive test..

[Ping]

Hello Penny