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    Quote Originally Posted by jackson.alan46 View Post
    [SIZE="3"]It takes just as long for a psychiatrist to train as it does an orthopaedic surgeon, even if a broken bone is more obvious.
    which one has the higher success rate thou Alan
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackson.alan46 View Post

    With due respect, that is an outrageous statement not based on evidence.
    lighten up Alan, this is not a forum for medical professionals

    and I'm not questioning the skills of any medical professionals, I'm just asking if you asked a 100 patients treated by a orthopaedic surgeon and a 100 patients treated by a psychiatrist if they were happy about their treatment, which would have the higher rating, and it all goes back to what i said, a broken bone can seen and fixed but a mind cannot be so easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackson.alan46 View Post
    Sorry, I'll keep out of such discussions.




    take it easy Alan, your taking things too seriously


    everyone on here is grateful of your medical contributions and advice

    but remember were just lay people on here

    so keep the posts coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackson.alan46 View Post
    I'm sorry.
    i think you might have taken that the wrong way Alan or my English grammar is , i should have said this is a friendly forum on the philippines and the UK, its not a academic medical forum full of MDs so go easy on ME if i take the out of the medical profession.

    no offence meant
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    I was first diagnosed with depression in 1999.

    We are now 2010 and I have two wonderful children and a beautiful wife all of whom I love more than I can say.
    So, I should be happy yes?

    I still suffer from this TERRIBLE mental illness!! I 'break down' with monotonous regularity - and STILL feel greatly embarrassed because, unlike a broken arm or leg, it is an illness of the mind and people (some) do not understand that the mind can be 'broken.'

    Al.
    Pressed rat and warthog closed down their shop!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I 'break down' with monotonous regularity - and STILL feel greatly embarrassed because, unlike a broken arm or leg, it is an illness of the mind and people (some) do not understand that the mind can be 'broken.'

    Al.
    Believe me, Al ... I can sooo empathise with what you're saying. I'VE always BEEN a worrier. I really CARE about people [particularly my nearest and dearest]; equally, about others' feelings ... and somehow - although you and I have never met - it's long been my impression that YOU are that kind of bloke, also! Frequently, I'm left wondering WHY? ... why it invariably seems to be the most sensitive, caring folk that end up suffering untold mental anguish?

    I'm very aware of the trials and tribulations you and Hanna have had to undergo since the beginning of this year, my friend ... and I fervently hope and pray that you will soon be in a position to bring your beloved wife and kids to the UK.

    On a lighter note: Thankfully, both of us are blessed with a hale & hearty sense of humour - which is truly a Godsend!


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post

    no offence meant
    No offence taken , joebloggs, and thanks for your friendly reply I've often said I've learned a lot from the forum, and I'm happy to give something in return !


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackson.alan46 View Post
    No offence taken , joebloggs, and thanks for your friendly reply I've often said I've learned a lot from the forum, and I'm happy to give something in return !
    understood Alan
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    I believe the contents of our mind is what appear in our lives...so:

    If a man keeps pictures of girls, the type of "poses" the girls are in will say a little something about his relationship with women..in the present and the future!

    I keep money lying around and stuck to my walls and stuff, I've conditioned my mind to believe money is abundant in my life!

    Depression ends when you learn to gain control of your thoughts, then you've gained control of your life! It's tricky at first maybe, the bad thoughts seem to find there way back, our minds seem somewhat cycletic..? You would do well to stop listening to news on Tv/Radio/newspapers frankly those bad stories are microscopic compared to the endless goodness in life. Figure out what your loves and desires are..and think about the ABUNDANCE of them, and only them! Why on earth would you want to think about anything else?

    There are 7 Planes Of Existance:

    7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
    6 — Plane of Forces
    5 — Astral Plane
    4 — Mental Plane
    3 — Too mysterious to describe.
    2 — Too mysterious to describe.
    1 — Too mysterious to describe.




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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel View Post

    I keep money lying around and stuck to my walls and stuff
    Think I might pay Nigel's place a little visit shortly if he's !

    Quote Originally Posted by nigel View Post

    Depression ends when you learn to gain control of your thoughts, then you've gained control of your life! It's tricky at first maybe, the bad thoughts seem to find there way back, our minds seem somewhat cycletic..? You would do well to stop listening to news on Tv/Radio/newspapers frankly those bad stories are microscopic compared to the endless goodness in life. Figure out what your loves and desires are..and think about the ABUNDANCE of them, and only them! Why on earth would you want to think about anything else?
    Sounds like I could do with some coaching from you!


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    My mum had post-natal depression for quite a while after my younger brother was born and she had some not suite so nice treatments then got stuck on valium for years. It took her many years to gradually come off them. I hope the current drugs are not quite so hard to come off when you are feeling better.

    Like said before, most people get depression from events in their life that have caused it, but others get it for no particular reason such as Alan and Fred. Obviously the first type is easier to treat as you know what has caused it, but does anyone know what causes the 'chemical imbalance' type?


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