do you really think arthur was trying to cause ill feeling by starting this thread?
unless hes out to cause mischief
do you really think arthur was trying to cause ill feeling by starting this thread?
unless hes out to cause mischief
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
OK....Kisses and hugs....We agree to disagreeOriginally Posted by aposhark
OK....Kisses and hugs....We agree to disagree
oh..I'm a conservative.
Please read post #64do you really think arthur was trying to cause ill feeling by starting this thread?
unless hes out to cause mischief
Surely aposhark 'fairy tales'? You are a man of many words, so why use 'fairy tales'?
Why not say, untruths in your humble opinion, or something to that effect.
Calling the bible 'fairy tales' will surely get some people's backs up.
Like bornabirth said, you should not of replyed to the thread.
I haven't been offended by your thread Arthur, though wasn't particularly interested in it? So don't feel bad about it.
We have to remember, that probably 50%?? of the forum is religious.
When I spent time in the Philippines, we used to go to church most sundays, stand outside because it was packed. I wasn't interested in the service, just used to enjoy watching the food & flower vendors, setting up, for when the congregation departed. I went because of my wifes beliefs & her sister, who was staying with us.
However, I always think of churches, as a place of great beauty & they instill a sense of calm in me. For me, this has nothing to do with any proof or disproof of God.
Likewise, we went & lit candles, for our departed loved ones on All Souls, or All Saints day can't remember which day oops!...& that was a very moving experience...will never forget that.
When my neighbour died suddenly, back in january aged 46, well over 200 people attended his funeral. He was always very popular. He had a Humanist service & lovely it was too, but it was almost religious, in feeling & the sense of everyone coming together.
This is why I know I can draw some comfort, from religion, without having to have any set beliefs, or proof of anything.
You call them untruths, I prefer to call them fairy tales; it is semantics.Surely aposhark 'fairy tales'? You are a man of many words, so why use 'fairy tales'?
Why not say, untruths in your humble opinion, or something to that effect.
Calling the bible 'fairy tales' will surely get some people's backs up.
Like bornabirth said, you should not of replyed to the thread.
If you can provide any proof, I and a million others would be keen to be enlightened.
I suspect it will be a very long wait however.
Regarding me not replying, I refer to bornatbirth's comment:
"its a free world".
tell that to the uneducated victims of 7/7 or 9/11As with most people who can't be bothered educating themselves properly, those so called 'Muslims' who want others dead are mostly those that abuse their own religion, so they are NOT true followers of the Muslim faith, while those who follow it's true path would not harm another human.
The same goes for the religious idiots in the US who fight to stop abortion in the name of God to save lives but murdered the doctor
all of the "major 3" religions incites hatred no matter how well meaning
for myself i think i am a buddhist athiest
and i will leave this topic with a quote from the late great Douglas Adams
""I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. Q.E.D."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing"
Mine changed!
This thread proves that religion divides people greatly. It's a shame we can't have a sensible debate. Ah well, football's on soon...
I and my muslim friends don't remember being taught any time in our lives to go out and kill others, nutters, murders, governments, and people who use religion as an excuse for murder do that. I don't believe in God, but then I can't prove their isn't one either, although in all probabilty it's 99.99999....% their isn't one, but to say all 3 main religions incite hatred shows you are the one who is uneducated and blind to all physical probably that a God or some divine beings may exist in a physical presence we have not yet found nor understand. 100 Years ago atoms did not exist, now we have neutrino's that pass through the Earth without touching anything.
I take it you've read the original manuscripts of these 3 religions, or from what you say, you've fallen for the gullible waffle that books & the media have put out over the years, which make you just as bad for brainwashing as the religious folk.
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I and my muslim friends don't remember being taught any time in our lives to go out and kill others, nutters, murders, governments, and people who use religion as an excuse for murder do that. I don't believe in God, but then I can't prove their isn't one either, although in all probabilty it's 99.99999....% their isn't one, but to say all 3 main religions incite hatred shows you are the one who is uneducated and blind to all physical probably that a God or some divine beings may exist in a physical presence we have not yet found nor understand. 100 Years ago atoms did not exist, now we have neutrino's that pass through the Earth without touching anything.
I take it you've read the original manuscripts of these 3 religions, or from what you say, you've fallen for the gullible waffle that books & the media have put out over the years, which make you just as bad for brainwashing as the religious folk.
7/7 and 9/11 re the muslims
the crusades in the name of christianity
the jews just yesterday on the ship
nuff said really
i dont feel the love there
for peaceful religions theres an awful lot of killing!!!
Not in the Presbyterian Church of Scotland there ain't... not YET, anyway!
if you dont do what your mrs says there may well be one at leastNot in the Presbyterian Church of Scotland there ain't
Not really, they are not doing these things as per the preachings of the original manuscripts which are preach peace. It is man that uses religion as an excuse for murder, the original religious manuscripts do not preach that people murder.
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... an unequivocal and emphatic
"NO!" Don't you realise I'd have used the ENLARGEMENT fonts for the "word" - IF ONLY I knew how to ... ?
you mean like this
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
There's no doubt about it that the media portray Islam in the most negative way, this goes as far as movies as well. Whose ever seen an Arab portrayed in a good light in a filmyou've fallen for the gullible waffle that books & the media have put out over the years
Maybe because the Jews run Hollywood
There's no doubt about it that the media portray Islam in the most negative way, this goes as far as movies as well. Whose ever seen an Arab portrayed in a good light in a filmyou've fallen for the gullible waffle that books & the media have put out over the years
Maybe because the Jews run Hollywood
There's no doubt about it that the media portray Islam in the most negative way, this goes as far as movies as well. Whose ever seen an Arab portrayed in a good light in a film
Maybe because the Jews run HollywoodKeeping to the 'biblical' theme ... Christ only knows how photos of the scale portrayed are uploaded onto a computer!
do you really think arthur was trying to cause ill feeling by starting this thread?
unless hes out to cause mischief
Whatever, Mike, I would like to reiterate what I said yesterday: My thread was NOT - repeat NOT- designed in ANY way to cause offence to ANYONE - believers and/or non-believers alike!! And I'm both sadand disappointed to think that anyone here could've even [imagined] otherwise, and taken it out of its proper context ... which was merely "food for thought", that's all.
Well that would be a first - A Kopite brainwashed by a Toffee.
It's not for the want of trying
The Bible and the Koran both recommend horrible things........
Not in the original scriptures their isn't.The Bible and the Koran both recommend horrible things for their followers
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My point was that I do not like to get personal, name call or insult anyone here Arthur.
Whatever, Mike, I would like to reiterate what I said yesterday: My thread was NOT - repeat NOT- designed in ANY way to cause offence to ANYONE - believers and/or non-believers alike!! And I'm both sad
The post that I was asked to comment on would only have made the situation worse, and that was something I wasn't willing to do.
I just wish this fantastic forum could be free of religion and the resulting divisiveness that occurs.
I don't really want to keep submitting an atheist's opinion, but that is me and is the result of my life's experiences.
I would much prefer to comment on how beautiful our wives are to us, and why is the pound dropping all the time causing the PHP rate to continue to drop; things of importance to all of us
I haven't read any of these bible/koran originals.Not in the original scriptures their isn't.
I did see a documentary about the dead sea scrolls and it informed the viewers that these artifacts were locked away quickly by the Jews because they showed the Jews to be warmongers, contrary to the image they wanted to portray in these times
well this forum will always contain something related to religion no matter what we do..most females here are Catholic or have religion..most would say "just keep on praying to God" or "we'll include u to our prayers" and the likes whenever there's someone experiencing a bad situation..all we have to do is to respect everyone else's beliefs, opinions, etc. to avoid such debates esp. about religion..
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i get the feeling you enjoy doing so
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
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