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    Quote Originally Posted by sars_notd_virus View Post
    Religion does not matter.....Catholic, many are Christian, some are Islamic, and a few are Jewish, and they all prayed to the same God (who is called by different names). I am sure that He does not much care if those praying go to different places of worship on different days of the week. God looks directly into the hearts of people Mr. Aposhark.
    Thank you for your reply.
    My replies have been to consistently ask for any proof of a "god", and as none has ever been submitted in the past ANYWHERE and ANY TIME, I can deduce that there is no such thing as a "god".
    Ask yourself why there are so many churches in the Philippines, in a country where there is a great deal of poverty.
    Is that right and just. So much money tied up by people who won't even sanction the use of condoms to alleviate the conditions of the poor.
    In more wealthy countries, Catholicism is dying fast - people are too busy to buy into any more brainwashing.
    People prefer to live for the here and now, not the promise that everything will be better when they are dead


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    Hi Apo, I agree that this can be a HOT topic and arouse deep seated emotions.
    But I posted a reply a week ago and i will repost it now.


    Hi guys, just putting this out there for your CONSIDERATION!!

    For those who believe in a God and revere the scriptures as being divinely inspired , why doesnt 'christianity' follow what the Bible teaches?

    noted philosopher Soren Kierkegaard once said: "The Christianity of the New Testament simply does not exist. Millions of people through the centuries have little by little cheated God out of Christianity and have succeeded in making Christianity exactly the opposite of what it is in the New Testament."

    Where's Christmas, Easter, etc commanded in the Bible, where is Sunday mentioned as the Sabbath??

    Maybe we dont follow what the Bible teaches at all .

    Quote fromCardinal James Gibbons , leading Catholic Cardinal, in 1876
    : "But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify. The Catholic Church correctly teaches that our Lord and His Apostles inculcated certain important duties of religion which are not recorded by the inspired writers.

    There are loads of examples of leading 'church men who agree that Sunday was never authorised by the Bible.
    As i say guys for consideration and please no unpleasant mud slinging............we'reall adults here .



    My point is that most people assume certain things, but my suggestion is this.

    The 'religion ' in the Bible is not necesarily the kind practiced by most today.
    If that is the case then all we are doing here is ranting and raving about FALSE religion , and not the one left behind in the scriptures.
    As for 'proof' heres a food for thought and this is an undisputed fact!!.
    There has never been any archaeological find that has been contrary to the scriptures, all finds have only substantiated what has been found in the Biblical text, as recently as 1993 there was NO evidence that King David existed, then evidence was unearthed that was written about him by his enemies, and now its accepted that he did exist and it supports the Bible.
    This is just for you and everyone to ponder on.
    I can see its a sore point for you and you get a bit wound up....theres no point in doing that.
    It would be nice if it can be discussed rationally, most of us are here cos we are in love with a filipina, thats one thing we ALL have in common , and BTW ive enjoyed reading about your Panaginip story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurel View Post
    Hi Apo, I agree that this can be a HOT topic and arouse deep seated emotions.
    But I posted a reply a week ago and i will repost it now.


    Hi guys, just putting this out there for your CONSIDERATION!!

    For those who believe in a God and revere the scriptures as being divinely inspired , why doesnt 'christianity' follow what the Bible teaches?

    noted philosopher Soren Kierkegaard once said: "The Christianity of the New Testament simply does not exist. Millions of people through the centuries have little by little cheated God out of Christianity and have succeeded in making Christianity exactly the opposite of what it is in the New Testament."

    Where's Christmas, Easter, etc commanded in the Bible, where is Sunday mentioned as the Sabbath??

    Maybe we dont follow what the Bible teaches at all .

    Quote fromCardinal James Gibbons , leading Catholic Cardinal, in 1876
    : "But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify. The Catholic Church correctly teaches that our Lord and His Apostles inculcated certain important duties of religion which are not recorded by the inspired writers.

    There are loads of examples of leading 'church men who agree that Sunday was never authorised by the Bible.
    As i say guys for consideration and please no unpleasant mud slinging............we'reall adults here .



    My point is that most people assume certain things, but my suggestion is this.

    The 'religion ' in the Bible is not necesarily the kind practiced by most today.
    If that is the case then all we are doing here is ranting and raving about FALSE religion , and not the one left behind in the scriptures.
    As for 'proof' heres a food for thought and this is an undisputed fact!!.
    There has never been any archaeological find that has been contrary to the scriptures, all finds have only substantiated what has been found in the Biblical text, as recently as 1993 there was NO evidence that King David existed, then evidence was unearthed that was written about him by his enemies, and now its accepted that he did exist and it supports the Bible.
    This is just for you and everyone to ponder on.
    I can see its a sore point for you and you get a bit wound up....theres no point in doing that.
    It would be nice if it can be discussed rationally, most of us are here cos we are in love with a filipina, thats one thing we ALL have in common , and BTW ive enjoyed reading about your Panaginip story.
    I am not wound up....the people who believe in something without proof have been wound up for centuries
    If there are some stories in the bible that mention some historical fact and then archeology proves it then that is great.
    I and millions of others would like to see any proof that there is a "god".
    As yet, we continue our lives in the here and now.
    My wife is still beautiful to me, moreso now with her bump
    Our little daughter will come soon.
    We have seen the scans and watched her moving her tiny hands and feet, now that is the reason why I am alive


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    My wife is still beautiful to me, moreso now with her bump
    Our little daughter will come soon.
    We have seen the scans and watched her moving her tiny hands and feet, now that is the reason why I am alive







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    Quote Originally Posted by laurel View Post
    Hi Apo, I agree that this can be a HOT topic and arouse deep seated emotions.
    But I posted a reply a week ago and i will repost it now.


    Hi guys, just putting this out there for your CONSIDERATION!!

    For those who believe in a God and revere the scriptures as being divinely inspired , why doesnt 'christianity' follow what the Bible teaches?

    noted philosopher Soren Kierkegaard once said: "The Christianity of the New Testament simply does not exist. Millions of people through the centuries have little by little cheated God out of Christianity and have succeeded in making Christianity exactly the opposite of what it is in the New Testament."

    Where's Christmas, Easter, etc commanded in the Bible, where is Sunday mentioned as the Sabbath??

    Maybe we dont follow what the Bible teaches at all .

    Quote fromCardinal James Gibbons , leading Catholic Cardinal, in 1876
    : "But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify. The Catholic Church correctly teaches that our Lord and His Apostles inculcated certain important duties of religion which are not recorded by the inspired writers.

    There are loads of examples of leading 'church men who agree that Sunday was never authorised by the Bible.
    As i say guys for consideration and please no unpleasant mud slinging............we'reall adults here .



    My point is that most people assume certain things, but my suggestion is this.

    The 'religion ' in the Bible is not necesarily the kind practiced by most today.
    If that is the case then all we are doing here is ranting and raving about FALSE religion , and not the one left behind in the scriptures.
    As for 'proof' heres a food for thought and this is an undisputed fact!!.
    There has never been any archaeological find that has been contrary to the scriptures, all finds have only substantiated what has been found in the Biblical text, as recently as 1993 there was NO evidence that King David existed, then evidence was unearthed that was written about him by his enemies, and now its accepted that he did exist and it supports the Bible.
    This is just for you and everyone to ponder on.
    I can see its a sore point for you and you get a bit wound up....theres no point in doing that.
    It would be nice if it can be discussed rationally, most of us are here cos we are in love with a filipina, thats one thing we ALL have in common , and BTW ive enjoyed reading about your Panaginip story.
    Hi laurel, thanks for reading this thread and many posts.
    It is good that archeologists confirm some historical facts that the bible mentioned.
    As yet however, there is still no proof of a "god".
    Millions of people in the history of mankind would be shocked to find out about any proof.

    Thanks for reading about "Panaginip".
    She is still my dream in life, my true love and the nicest person I have ever met anywhere.
    I am a very lucky man to have met such a beautiful loving wife, and there is a mini-Panaginip coming in the next 9 weeks so our home is full of love and kisses.
    I just continue to work all the hours I can to provide for her, and when I see her beautiful smile at the door when I come home after work, it makes everything worthwhile


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    Hi laurel, sorry I don't know how posting under your name could have happened
    Very strange


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Hi laurel, sorry I don't know how posting under your name could have happened
    Very strange
    What happened did i miss something??


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    i see .........my mistske didnt use the quote function properly.........................wheres a red face when u need it


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurel View Post
    i see .........my mistske didnt use the quote function properly.........................wheres a red face when u need it
    Life's full of those little moments
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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Life's full of those little moments
    ... like the image you've posted, Mike! Proves you haven't lost your sense of humour, my friend.


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