suffering

[Pete/London]

It may be true that they could find work somewhere but they tell me the wages are very low and it upsets me to know these kind women have to do any work, who wants to work all their lives?

I am confused by your post.In the first you are saying that there is no work for people to earn money to pay their bills etc and in the post I have quoted you are saying it upsets you that the women have to do any work.
Are you saying that you only want men to work?

You have also stated that you want to form a group in another posting,and you are going into property development, are the two related.

Are you intending to plough all your profits to help the people of Surigao? I may have misunderstood the intention of your post.

[cherelyn]

Pete, London. It is accepted that there will be work to do growing rice etc but that it would be more kind and better mannered if the men did it unless the women want to. From what i understand it would be possible to continue to buy growing land and build houses for ever so that kind people could have free housing and food but I would not be willing to help those content to kill animals, fish and birds as I also believe such people would kill me, ganun.

[Steve.r]

Pete, London. It is accepted that there will be work to do growing rice etc but that it would be more kind and better mannered if the men did it unless the women want to. From what i understand it would be possible to continue to buy growing land and build houses for ever so that kind people could have free housing and food but I would not be willing to help those content to kill animals, fish and birds as I also believe such people would kill me, ganun.

Hmm... what a lovely thought, but completely unrealistic. From what I have seen and know women play a huge part in rice growing, they spend hours in the fields planting. So do you propose that they stay at home and produce children?
Why do you think you can change a way of life that has existed for hundreds of years? If you have money to burn on trying to convert a community go ahead, but it has already been suggested that you concentrate on lobbying the root cause, and not the effect.
If you give me a home, I will live in it, give me a field I will plant it. If I want to eat meat, I'll eat it. You are 7000 miles away, I could tell you everything you want to hear.

[sars_notd_virus]

If you give me a home, I will live in it, give me a field I will plant it. If I want to eat meat, I'll eat it. You are 7000 miles away, I could tell you everything you want to hear.

yeah i agree..cant get hold of peoples lives and doings even if you give them money and shelter

[Pete/London]

Pete, London. It is accepted that there will be work to do growing rice etc but that it would be more kind and better mannered if the men did it unless the women want to. From what i understand it would be possible to continue to buy growing land and build houses for ever so that kind people could have free housing and food but I would not be willing to help those content to kill animals, fish and birds as I also believe such people would kill me, ganun.

Families tend to work together on farms and rice growing so you are asking for a change of lifestyle.

Why the carrot and stick approach? you are British and your wife is Malay so why the interest in that part of the P.I.

Would I be right in thinking there might be some religious intent behind it such as,
Quaker, 7 th day Adv, Muslim, Janism etc only I do think the P.I. is oversubscribed to religion.

[Steve.r]

Would I be right in thinking there might be some religious intent behind it

NOOOOOOO.............dont mention the 'R' word. Apo' will be here in a minute

[aromulus]

From what i understand it would be possible to continue to buy growing land and build houses for ever so that kind people could have free housing and food but I would not be willing to help those content to kill animals, fish and birds as I also believe such people would kill me, ganun.

Excuse meeeeeeeeeee.....

Are you on the same planet as the rest of us...??

Where do you get those ideas from...???

It seems to me that you may be in need of some kind of proper directions.

You are implying that because I go fishing for food, or kill and dress the odd pheasant, helped in the past to butcher pigs, cattle and sheep, It makes me by default a killer of humans...???
I take offense to that....

If you want to help poorer people than yourself, I find it very commendable, great and honorable, but don't put silly rules and covenants where there should be none.
Are you sure that you are not just wanting to have some kind of hold or power over them...?
It looks that way, to me. Do as I say or... off.....

Are you religious at all...??? If so, read your bible again....

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(Mike, Keith, Bab, and all other atheists, this ain't a religious thread... I will find you one later....)

[Arthur Little]

[SIZE=4]Are you religious at all...???

... says he doesn't believe in God!

[aposhark]

Excuse meeeeeeeeeee.....

Are you on the same planet as the rest of us...??

Where do you get those ideas from...???

It seems to me that you may be in need of some kind of proper directions.

You are implying that because I go fishing for food, or kill and dress the odd pheasant, helped in the past to butcher pigs, cattle and sheep, It makes me by default a killer of humans...???
I take offense to that....

If you want to help poorer people than yourself, I find it very commendable, great and honorable, but don't put silly rules and covenants where there should be none.
Are you sure that you are not just wanting to have some kind of hold or power over them...?
It looks that way, to me. Do as I say or... off.....

Are you religious at all...??? If so, read your bible again....

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(Mike, Keith, Bab, and all other atheists, this ain't a religious thread... I will find you one later....)

Thanks Dom
I think we all need a rest after the last religious thread