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    Quote Originally Posted by sars_notd_virus View Post
    i think u will have no problems re-applying for fiance visa once the first application is granted ...marriage is a major thing and 4-5months is not enough to decide if you are both into it,so goodluck with ur plans and visa application.
    Definitely, though Englishman2010 is talking about living together in the UK for 4-5 months after having a LDR for a lot longer.

    Having 4-5 months living together in the UK before getting married which fiancee visa allows is far better than the spouse visa which allows no time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    Definitely, though Englishman2010 is talking about living together in the UK for 4-5 months after having a LDR for a lot longer.

    Having 4-5 months living together in the UK before getting married which fiancee visa allows is far better than the spouse visa which allows no time.
    spouse visa is for those already married, they've already made that decision to wed, in my case i had known the misses for years b4 we wed.

    how many people do you know on here, who came to the uk on a fiancee visa and didn't wed ? ( i know of only 1 - who didn't even make it to the uk).

    some people are still happliy married and they only met once

    its different for everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    spouse visa is for those already married, they've already made that decision to wed, in my case i had known the misses for years b4 we wed.

    how many people do you know on here, who came to the uk on a fiancee visa and didn't wed ? ( i know of only 1 - who didn't even make it to the uk).

    some people are still happliy married and they only met once

    its different for everyone
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    I don't know of many people who came to the uk on a fiancee visa and didn't wed, but I do know of far more who went the spouse visa route whose marriage failed very quickly. Unless though you can find stats issued by the UKBA it's impossible to really tell as not everybody will admit their failure.

    Yes everybody is difference, but I will continue to argue that being together in the UK before you get married is a good idea for everybody (be it tourist or fiancee visa) who have only had a LDR.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    spouse visa is for those already married, they've already made that decision to wed, in my case i had known the misses for years b4 we wed.

    how many people do you know on here, who came to the uk on a fiancee visa and didn't wed ? ( i know of only 1 - who didn't even make it to the uk).

    some people are still happliy married and they only met once

    its different for everyone
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    Do you know me Joe but we made it here in the Philippines...got married finally after almost 4 years
    We're not intended to do it coz very expensive route it's just complications from papers...but in the end very worth it

    Just a reminder to our Gentlemen here...Doing the fiancee visa route is very hard decision for a parents to allow their daughter to marry in a foreign land....so make sure u mean it and sort all legal concerns....and give the parents assurance (by keep them informing about the wedding plans) that you are very sincere to their daughter and wanted to marry
    I'm saying this based on my experiences...
    Don't make promises when you are in JOY. Don't reply when you are SAD.
    Don't take decisions when you are ANGRY. Think twice, Act wise. BE happy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LEAHnew View Post
    Do you know me Joe but we made it here in the Philippines...got married finally after almost 4 years
    We're not intended to do it coz very expensive route it's just complications from papers...but in the end very worth it

    Just a reminder to our Gentlemen here...Doing the fiancee visa route is very hard decision for a parents to allow their daughter to marry in a foreign land....so make sure u mean it and sort all legal concerns....and give the parents assurance (by keep them informing about the wedding plans) that you are very sincere to their daughter and wanted to marry
    I'm saying this based on my experiences...
    how could i forget you
    but your reason for not marrying was for legal reasons not becuase you didnt want to

    its not the spouse visa fault that a marriage fails, people shouldn't rush into it, but then who are we to say whos marriage will last, i'm sure there are many who met only once and are happily wed after many years

    you would also need to looks at the number of people who came on a spouse visa compared to a fiancee visa..

    stats dont mean a thing, if i stick my head in a oven and my feet in a fridge, stats say im doing ok !
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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    Definitely, though Englishman2010 is talking about living together in the UK for 4-5 months after having a LDR for a lot longer.

    Having 4-5 months living together in the UK before getting married which fiancee visa allows is far better than the spouse visa which allows no time.
    I see your point here, but there was no way we were going down the fiancee visa route...Wasn't even an option, would have been horrible getting married over here....You could spend some time in the Philippines?

    Like has been said, best not to rush into things, take your time.


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    The Fiancee Visa is the best option for us as she doesnt have a decent job or any money over there, and I have a good job over here. There is no way I could spend any more than 2 or 3 weeks at a time over there, and going over there 4 times a year is becoming very expensive when you consider flights, internal flights, hotels, presents and spends, airport parking and taxi's in the UK...etc
    The main advantage of the FV is that it means we can spend a good 4 months together to really get to know each other and see if we really are destined to spend the rest of our lives together. Cost wise, it works out cheaper than me going there once during the same time, and is a massive saving if I were to go twice. Cost isn't the major concern, although it is still an important consideration as any money saved on my own travel will be used to support my g/f while she is here, and can also be used to pay for a wedding and spousal visa ...etc
    My g/f doesnt mind if she gets married here, as we can always go back to the Philippines afterwards and have a blessing and party for her friends.
    As I have a trip over there in a couple of months and another in Jan 2011, I'm not going to rush into anything now. I will see how it goes on the next two trips, and we will decide if its the right thing during my trip in Jan next year


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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishman2010 View Post
    The Fiancee Visa is the best option for us as she doesnt have a decent job or any money over there, and I have a good job over here. There is no way I could spend any more than 2 or 3 weeks at a time over there, and going over there 4 times a year is becoming very expensive when you consider flights, internal flights, hotels, presents and spends, airport parking and taxi's in the UK...etc
    The main advantage of the FV is that it means we can spend a good 4 months together to really get to know each other and see if we really are destined to spend the rest of our lives together. Cost wise, it works out cheaper than me going there once during the same time, and is a massive saving if I were to go twice. Cost isn't the major concern, although it is still an important consideration as any money saved on my own travel will be used to support my g/f while she is here, and can also be used to pay for a wedding and spousal visa ...etc
    My g/f doesnt mind if she gets married here, as we can always go back to the Philippines afterwards and have a blessing and party for her friends.
    As I have a trip over there in a couple of months and another in Jan 2011, I'm not going to rush into anything now. I will see how it goes on the next two trips, and we will decide if its the right thing during my trip in Jan next year
    Sorry Englishman, my post wasn't meant personally at you, was just a bit annoyed at darren-b, saying fiancee visa is best.

    It's up to couples to decide, which suits them best. Neither one is better than the other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    Sorry Englishman, my post wasn't meant personally at you, was just a bit annoyed at darren-b, saying fiancee visa is best.

    It's up to couples to decide, which suits them best. Neither one is better than the other.
    yes each to their own, what ever suits you both best
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    Sorry Englishman, my post wasn't meant personally at you, was just a bit annoyed at darren-b, saying fiancee visa is best.

    It's up to couples to decide, which suits them best. Neither one is better than the other.
    with you on the one hand, Simon [your 1st paragraph]. But not entirely on the other, because:

    To MY mind, at least, the fiance(e) route is an unnecessary waste of money ... UNLESS work commitments determine the maximum amount of time an applicant's sponsor can spend in the Phils. Admittedly, for someone like me ... who's lucky enough to be retired ... the choice is more easily made (and one hell of a lot less expensive!). I mean WHY pay nearly seven hundred quid to bring your betrothed to the UK, incur the hugely-inflated costs of even the smallest ceremony here ... and then be forced to fork out [roughly] the same fee AGAIN just a few months later ... to allow your [by then] lawfully-wedded spouse to remain in this country for the next two and a bit years?? Incredible!

    However, I'm totally with you in your second statement; it IS up to couples themselves to decide.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    with you on the one hand, Simon [your 1st paragraph]. But not entirely on the other, because:

    To MY mind, at least, the fiance(e) route is an unnecessary waste of money ... UNLESS work commitments determine the maximum amount of time an applicant's sponsor can spend in the Phils. Admittedly, for someone like me ... who's lucky enough to be retired ... the choice is more easily made (and one hell of a lot less expensive!). I mean WHY pay nearly seven hundred quid to bring your betrothed to the UK, incur the hugely-inflated costs of even the smallest ceremony here ... and then be forced to fork out [roughly] the same fee AGAIN just a few months later ... to allow your [by then] lawfully-wedded spouse to remain in this country for the next two and a bit years?? Incredible!

    However, I'm totally with you in your second statement; it IS up to couples themselves to decide.
    Well there you go then Arthur.
    Personally, I've tried not to let money be a deciding issue (I don't have any, seriously), in any of our plans, as it would be too depressing, if I calculated every expense...our personal happiness, is far more important.

    P.S. Congratulations! on your promotion to Moderator...Do you have to go to Buckingham Palace, to receive your title?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    Well there you go then Arthur.
    Personally, I've tried not to let money be a deciding issue (I don't have any, seriously), in any of our plans, as it would be too depressing, if I calculated every expense...our personal happiness, is far more important.

    P.S. Congratulations! on your promotion to Moderator...Do you have to go to Buckingham Palace, to receive your title?
    As you were annoyed at me for saying that the fiancee visa is better than the spouse visa (I didn't actually say that directly anyway..), shouldn't you now be annoyed at Arthur for saying the spouse visa is better than the fiancee visa?


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