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    Well, at the expense of sounding like a prude.

    I am a Christian, therefore I wouldn't go into one of these places. One of these bars where the bar-girls work.

    I would certainly not marry one.

    I am married to a lovely Christian girl. I know how innocent she was ....

    I personally have been quite innocent too. Shy and sensitive, a Christian with no real past experience.

    But it was also through choice - not just because I am shy.

    But, living in Birmingham, and later in the Philippines, I know a thing or two about what goes on. When i was living in the Philippines, I had some American friends who were intimately acquainted with this bar-scene and the girls who go along with it.

    Let me make it clear, I wouldn't marry a prostitute, because she is a prostitute. Spiritually speaking, her job choices will have effectively seared her conscience. It doesn't require me to have had first hand experience to know that.

    So that's the depth of my logic.

    It's the dream come true - for me and my wife, to be honest!


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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky View Post
    You got something against pimps now?
    well , yes and anyone whos suggesting my wife is a former bargirl

    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    Well, at the expense of sounding like a prude.

    I am a Christian, therefore I wouldn't go into one of these places. One of these bars where the bar-girls work.

    I would certainly not marry one.

    I am married to a lovely Christian girl. I know how innocent she was ....

    I personally have been quite innocent too. Shy and sensitive, a Christian with no real past experience.

    But it was also through choice - not just because I am shy.

    But, living in Birmingham, and later in the Philippines, I know a thing or two about what goes on. When i was living in the Philippines, I had some American friends who were intimately acquainted with this bar-scene and the girls who go along with it.

    Let me make it clear, I wouldn't marry a prostitute, because she is a prostitute. Spiritually speaking, her job choices will have effectively seared her conscience. It doesn't require me to have had first hand experience to know that.

    So that's the depth of my logic.

    It's the dream come true - for me and my wife, to be honest!
    thing is, she just hasnt told you and its a fact!!
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Burying your head in the sand does not give you the right to judge these girls, nor does Christian or any other religion. Sparky's experience, both good and bad proves that just because you lead a certain life, it cannot be changed by given different options.

    If you think about it, we re all prostitutes to our work, whatever work that is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve.r View Post
    Burying your head in the sand does not give you the right to judge these girls, nor does Christian or any other religion. Sparky's experience, both good and bad proves that just because you lead a certain life, it cannot be changed by given different options.

    If you think about it, we re all prostitutes to our work, whatever work that is.
    Sorry mate, I am not a prostitute to my work.

    I do my work coz i love it, and I often will "fire" my clients.

    Its nonsense to say that because someone has a conviction they're burying their head in the sand.

    That's simply wrong.

    And can peoples' opinions be changed? Sure ... but it depends on how strongly held their convictions were in the first place.

    Although, it would kinda show what our society has come to that we would have people arguing the case for marrying prostitutes.

    Hmmm.

    I don't want to argue about this, agree to disagree.

    Besides, I am married to a lovely woman


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve.r View Post
    Burying your head in the sand does not give you the right to judge these girls.
    To live a life without judgement is to be so incapable of doing the most basic things in life.

    I judge that i am hungry, my action on that - get a sandwich


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    Well, at the expense of sounding like a prude.

    I am a Christian, therefore I wouldn't go into one of these places. One of these bars where the bar-girls work.

    I would certainly not marry one.

    I am married to a lovely Christian girl. I know how innocent she was ....

    I personally have been quite innocent too. Shy and sensitive, a Christian with no real past experience.

    But it was also through choice - not just because I am shy.

    But, living in Birmingham, and later in the Philippines, I know a thing or two about what goes on. When i was living in the Philippines, I had some American friends who were intimately acquainted with this bar-scene and the girls who go along with it.

    Let me make it clear, I wouldn't marry a prostitute, because she is a prostitute. Spiritually speaking, her job choices will have effectively seared her conscience. It doesn't require me to have had first hand experience to know that.

    So that's the depth of my logic.

    It's the dream come true - for me and my wife, to be honest!
    I thought Christians were supposed to "love thy neighbour" and show compassion to all.
    Another shattered perception


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I thought Christians were supposed to "love thy neighbour" and show compassion to all.
    Another shattered perception
    Your objection here is based upon a faulty understanding of Christian Theology!

    We can all speculate on complex matters of which we are ignorant of nuances and shades of meaning!

    Holiness + Love do go together, not in some soppy way, but in a very compatible way.


    War or Peace?

    EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
    ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
    False Dichotomy. The absense of peace is not always war, and the absense of war is not always peace. Sometimes one needs to be engaged in for the other to be achieved. Simples!




    Sparky Said:

    the word pimp . . . you make it sound so bad
    It is for those with a moral Compass



    People that have lived in Asia or spent considerable time there understand the culture better
    Yes we do! I am one of them I still despise pimpery and whoredom


    steve.r

    Totally agree
    Well of course you would!



    Fred: faith and religion are two different things
    True, Correct, Tinuod, Sakto! Couldn't agree more on this portion of your comment.


    We have many members of faith on this forum that continue to keep what is sacred to them a private affair
    And for the most part I am one of them, but for a Christian, their beliefs are pivotal to their answer to the question "would you marry a bar girl". The answer for a faith informed spiritual person will of course be informed by their faith.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Hubbard View Post
    Your objection here is based upon a faulty understanding of Christian Theology!

    We can all speculate on complex matters of which we are ignorant of nuances and shades of meaning!

    Holiness + Love do go together, not in some soppy way, but in a very compatible way.
    My "objection" was an observation. You typed:

    Let me make it clear, I wouldn't marry a prostitute, because she is a prostitute. Spiritually speaking, her job choices will have effectively seared her conscience. It doesn't require me to have had first hand experience to know that.
    So that's the depth of my logic.
    So judgmental and without compassion.
    You made a point about telling everyone about being christian, I just thought that your religion would have softened you towards people with "seared consciences".
    You seem so "ignorant of nuances and shades" as your perspective is black or white.
    If that works for you, you are lucky.
    I hope you will not become flummoxed when life throws up grey areas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    My "objection" was an observation. You typed:



    So judgmental and without compassion.
    You made a point about telling everyone about being christian, I just thought that your religion would have softened you towards people with "seared consciences".
    You seem so "ignorant of nuances and shades" as your perspective is black or white.
    If that works for you, you are lucky.
    I hope you will not become flummoxed when life throws up grey areas.
    but can you put a cork in it?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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