thanks for reply. yes kids are mine and they have british passports and also british birth certs and i am a brit born in uk. i just thought it mite help that i got kids a place in local school as extra supporting documents to show that im planning for the future, but like you said its my wife and not the kids appling for visa, i am working and saving a little every week and will have about £4000 savings i hope they see that as being enough spare cash, also hope they take into account the money im sending 2 my family every month and that would be extra cash i will have wen they are here. but have wait and see, it seems like the brit embassy want you 2 be a millionare to bring your wife to uk now. i envey all the guys that already have cuz extreamly hard now and getting harder all the time.