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    Shrine to Raoul Moat

    What the bloody hell is wrong with people?! a bloody shrine to that murdering ******* ?! how thick are people? try havin your loved ones taken away from you by a thick, shotgun toting arsehole and see how you like that! ****in muppets! at least we wont have to pay to keep him in jail!


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    Well people still support Hitler
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    KUM-BY-YAA MY LORD KUM - BY YAA ........... Oops!! wrong thread

    Idiots!!!!


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    Morons tacky "shrines" - the one that got me locally was at a lamp post on a busy A road. About 3 years ago a piece of trash in a stolen car tried to outrun pursuing Police, thankfully it was in the middle of the night and he didn't harm any other road users.

    Even more thankfully he ploughed into the lamp post and saved us all a lot of Police/Court/Jail costs


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    he was misunderstood and all alone, c'mon give him a break
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    he was misunderstood and all alone, c'mon give him a break
    ...and he didn't mean to seriously injured his ex ... he just shot her twice to make sure she wasn't seriously injured
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    he was misunderstood and all alone, c'mon give him a break
    New age liberal rubbish. I'd say shoot the Liberals


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    Who is Chris Brown ?

    Answer; The guy Moat killed.


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    so when he left prison did anyone check he was fit to leave?

    are you aware how many people get released without any kind out checks?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    so when he left prison did anyone check he was fit to leave?

    are you aware how many people get released without any kind out checks?
    What are you saying? That a person who has served their sentence should be subjected to some type of pre-release test ? A kind of double jeopardy. And that maybe someone (who) would then be able to extend their sentence? I think you might get some opposition the that one.

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    Question: Who is Chris Brown ?

    Answer; The guy Moat killed.


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    As they are all let out early they are supposed to be subject to pre-release checks ... although knowing this country that has probably been trimmed down just to making sure they don't have long toe nails
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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    What are you saying? That a person who has served their sentence should be subjected to some type of pre-release test ? A kind of double jeopardy. And that maybe someone (who) would then be able to extend their sentence? I think you might get some opposition the that one.
    im saying that when a prisoner whos about to get released, goes through a process to see that hes fit to survive in the real world.

    like where will they live and their home life, how will they get money etc.....

    they get released without any kind of help or support, why do you think so many reoffend?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    .....why do you think so many reoffend?
    Because they are pathetic morons who shouldn't be in society full stop
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    Quote why do you think so many reoffend?
    Probably for the same reason they offended previously and thus (eventually) got themselves locked up the last time !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Because they are pathetic morons who shouldn't be in society full stop
    - A another reason why we need Singapore style penalties and prisons


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    QUOTE:-

    Prisoners preparing for release

    A prisoner may be asked to attend groups or courses to help them with any behaviour problems they may have, such as alcohol or drug abuse, gambling, financial pressures, depression, aggression or lack of temper control, or sexual matters.

    Thus it would appear the pre-release program is solely to assist the prisoner not to assess their suitability to be released.

    Pleased (I know you will) correct me if I am wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    - A another reason why we need Singapore style penalties and prisons
    dear me

    if you had a look at someones life and thought they had a crap childhood and adult life, would you be surpised if they broke the law

    making a prison a tougher wont stop it?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    dear me

    if you had a look at someones life and thought they had a crap childhood and adult life, would you be surpised if they broke the law

    making a prison a tougher wont stop it?


    I had a pretty tough, poor childhood, brought up in a bad area of London. Maybe thats why I became a police officer and served the public and why for the past 15 years I have been a voluntary translator assisting people in Spain, OR maybe it was because I was taught the difference between right and wrong and to respect others !!


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    If you are not a child then you are responsible for your own actions regardless of your upbringing. You'll find entrepreneurs who were sexually abused and beaten as a child doing very well in life. You can't commit crime on blame it on anything else other than yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    dear me

    if you had a look at someones life and thought they had a crap childhood and adult life, would you be surpised if they broke the law

    making a prison a tougher wont stop it?
    The vast majority of people from poor, broken, disturbed backgrounds choose to obey the law and not become killers.

    Making prisons harsher discourages repeat offending. Like I said in another thread if Moat had been in Singapore he would still be in jail now unable to sit down from the thrashing he was given as part of his punishment for assault. He would be facing ample time in jail to realise the error of his ways and the futility of breaking the law.


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    but it doesnt help does it?

    i have worked with many exprisoners and most have the same background, if people had a better life less crime will be committed!
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    ..... if people had a better life less crime will be committed!
    That argument is a dead duck .... We have a massively better standard of living now than 30+ years ago, and yet have more crime than ever. Crime like drugs & alcohol, is a lifestyle choice not a necessity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    but it doesnt help does it?

    i have worked with many exprisoners and most have the same background, if people had a better life less crime will be committed!
    I have many years police experience dealing with law breakers and their victims. I agree with Keith.


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    They are lucky me and Dedworth are not in charge

    My prisons would be hell-holes,you would dread my prisons.

    You would sleep on cold slabs,no blankets,be fed rotten food,chain gang break rock up style,no tv's,playstations etc.

    A weekly round up of the hard times endured would be broadcast on all tv channels at peak time showing you how you will suffer in prison.

    So you know the consequences of ending up in jail and you aint gonna want to be there

    Answer don't commit the bloody crimes and you won't end up there.


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    what if you was a oap and refused to pay your council tax?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lestaxi1 View Post
    You would sleep on cold slabs,no blankets,be fed rotten food,chain gang break rock up style,no tv's,playstations etc.
    A bit like a Phillipine hotel then

    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    what if you was a oap and refused to pay your council tax?
    Crime need to be recatagorised for such things, with non-custodial sentences for things like that, but they must do community service at minimum wage to make up the costs...obviously they don't actually get any money ... or the bailiffs got the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    what if you was a oap and refused to pay your council tax?
    No that would not apply,I would not consider you a hardened criminal just someone struggling to pay a bill.


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    what did you think of gazzas invovlvement apparently he couldnt remember moats name totally out of it & out of his mind by all accounts they say gazza didnt know he from adam strange


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    i have worked with many exprisoners
    ... since you mention it ... what IS your line of work?


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie c View Post
    what did you think of gazzas invovlvement apparently he couldnt remember moats name totally out of it & out of his mind by all accounts they say gazza didnt know he from adam strange
    I must be like Gazza, who is Adam Strange


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