Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
dear me

if you had a look at someones life and thought they had a crap childhood and adult life, would you be surpised if they broke the law

making a prison a tougher wont stop it?
The vast majority of people from poor, broken, disturbed backgrounds choose to obey the law and not become killers.

Making prisons harsher discourages repeat offending. Like I said in another thread if Moat had been in Singapore he would still be in jail now unable to sit down from the thrashing he was given as part of his punishment for assault. He would be facing ample time in jail to realise the error of his ways and the futility of breaking the law.