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    Cool Do you believe in Aliens/UFOs?

    I want to hear the best answer please
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    Quote Originally Posted by gecko_pikachu View Post
    I want to hear the best answer please
    I'll really have to shout then your 80 miles away
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    They don't exist.

    Unless you live in Wales, plenty of alien like creatures speaking in funny code and interfering with the local sheep. I believe they are called Wales-folk and the language is called Welsh. They spit a lot when speaking.


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    You want to see an alien? Just contact the ADMIN..he's an alien!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    You want to see an alien? Just contact the ADMIN..he's an alien!!!
    <<< Looks like someone whose waxing went wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    <<< Looks like someone whose waxing went wrong
    Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha...you posted something i find so funny for the first time!!!!
    -=rayna.keith=-
    ...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...



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    i am a believer, i saw bright lights and was probed...well i was drunk before i went into the gay club

    i like to think bigfoot, ghosts, area 51 and ufo's exist
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    they seem to have a lot of U.F.O sightings around the fife area, not sure if they are real or if there is something in the water there (maybe whisky).


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    No, don't think aliens are visiting us. But I do think life exists beyond our tiny planet..


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    I saw some strange lights in the sky once, it gave me the willies and I ran home as fast as I could.


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    I don't believe these people who say they've seen aliens...they wouldn't come all this way..have a quick peek...and then fly back surely? They would stop for a cup of tea surely? They would ask the ingredients for chicken adobo surely?


    Telepathy is REAL.
    Law of gravity is REAL. (obviously)
    Hypnosis is REAL.
    Law of attraction is REAL.
    Static electricity is REAL.

    Aliens? I doubt it...but this story was very convincing!




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    There are aliens out there, but too far a distance to travel for them to get here.

    that's life Jim, not as we know it...


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    We're the aliens here.
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    uhmmmmmm Aliens???

    I think We R Not Alone

    ''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''


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    When I go to Philippines I'm an Alien


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    i saw a u f o once


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    I'VE SEEN LOTS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS .............. DO THEY COUNT?


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    My husband said:

    "Humans are not alone, not even on their own world as we are being watched and studied just the same way humans go to the depths of the oceans and into space to search out mysteries and life".

    The ancients knew all about the star-people as they built ancient structures around the globe to prove of their technology and to guarantee for their return which won't be long as humans will move to the next level from what they are now-- a lost species that doesn't know about their own spiritual awareness and what they can be.
    Taka care now &amp; Bye!.... Venus


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    The Universe is so big that there is bound to be intelligent life out there somewhere. But I don't believe they've ever visited us here on Earth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesey View Post
    The Universe is so big that there is bound to be intelligent life out there somewhere. But I don't believe they've ever visited us here on Earth.
    They could if they travelled through a black hole .... you'll find one between Dom's ears
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    They could if they travelled through a black hole .... you'll find one between Dom's ears
    Does that mean that he has a distorted view of both time and space


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    Stephen Hawking's wants to probe him
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    My mate left me a message on my phone the other day, saying they are here.
    He said have a look at Edgar Mitchell, Kerrang interview on youtube, the 6th man to walk on the moon.

    Mind you, he's off his 'ead.



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    Either life is extremely unlikely, in which case we are alone and there are no Aliens, or it's not that hard for life to start under the right conditions, in which case there is probably quite a lot of life in the Universe.

    Intelligent sentient life is another matter, even if life is common it is still unlikely that there are a large number of worlds that are home to self aware beings.

    Sentient life capable of developing a technological society? Probably very few indeed.

    Sentient technologically capable life forms that manage to survive their development of technology and it's consequences (war, climate change etc.)? Well that's still an open question even for us.

    Any society that developed a transportation technology that could reach even a modest fraction of the speed of light say 1/3 to 1/2 the speed of light would be able to colonize the entire galaxy in about 200,000 to 300,000 years assuming there is a reasonable density of planets similar to their home that could sustain them.

    So if such a society already existed then they would very likely have reached us already and we would be extinct already. Diaspora is not a civilized altruistic nice game of exploration, it's a land grab, survival of the fittest, you don't invest in interstellar travel just to go and be tourists, the journey simply takes too long and costs too much. It's a one way ticket for the colonists and they won't give a if the target solar system is already occupied.

    Life anywhere else is going to be driven by the same imperatives that drive life here, survive, mate, reproduce! That's it, the life forms that are good at it survive to continue the battle, the weak ones die or maybe get turned into cattle if they happen to be tasty or good for something in some other way.

    So where are all the Aliens?

    Have we heard anything in 40 years of listening?

    Nothing, not even a stray radio program or episode of "Lost in the Darkness" or "Not the 27 o'clock News" or "My part in Zyklovnitokolish's downfall".

    So it's really sad, no Alien sitcoms or soaps, I'm telling you, if there is anyone out there, then we are going to be really popular as providers of free entertainment.

    So no, we don't have Aliens amongst us and we should be really thankful for that.


    Jim


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    My mate left me a message on my phone the other day, saying they are here.
    He said have a look at Edgar Mitchell, Kerrang interview on youtube, the 6th man to walk on the moon.

    Mind you, he's off his 'ead.
    Well, he's a pilot and the only professional pilot that I know personally is also a fruitcake.

    Plenty of the guys who walked on the moon had and have pretty strange beliefs, there is a myth surrounding Nasa and the moon landings that it was all so clinical and ultra scientific.

    Most of the guys were just extremely good pilots, that's why they were up there. Neil Armstrong got the job as pilot of the Apollo 11 lunar lander because his reactions were utterly superb, he survived a failure of a test rig for the lander and ejected just moments before it hit the ground.

    They were extremely motivated to show the outward "Right Stuff" persona because they loved flying and the idea of going to the moon was exciting but they were human beings and it must have been pretty awesome to actually experience what they experienced, it's hardly surprising that it affected them deeply, many came back changed.

    Jim


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    There is life out there. And that life co exist here alongside humans.

    Human eyesight only sees 2% of the light spectrum, the other 98% anything could exists in that light spectrum. Humans live in a world where they think that everything they touch, smell, taste and total human experience and interaction is made up of atomic structure (ie, solid matter). When atom and atomic structure are not a solid substance, it is only human perception in their limited belief system that is downloaded into them from life experience that makes human activity limited and bound to this prison planet.

    As we are to look for life out there in the vastness of space, we must accept life will not only look like us. Most of it will be beyond all comprehension (ie. no need for space craft or any type of technology to go from A to B). You must remember that you yourselves are not defined by your physical presence only the life force that remains within until it is released back to the source.
    Taka care now &amp; Bye!.... Venus


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    Aliens? Yes

    when i was renewing my visa every time in dumaguete, i got a stamp on my visa saying that the "Alien control officer" would allow me to remain in the country ...

    so to the Filipinos

    I AM AN ALIEN!!!!

    So then gecko, since you're here, it makes you one hehe


    UFO's?

    Hmmm ...

    Ugly Fried Onions?
    Uncouth Filipino Orphans?
    Ulcerated Filthy Octogenarians?
    Unrelenting Fantastic Orgm?

    Hmmm, I believe in lots of different types of UFO's!

    Can we be specific ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gecko_pikachu View Post
    There is life out there. And that life co exist here alongside humans.

    Human eyesight only sees 2% of the light spectrum, the other 98% anything could exists in that light spectrum. Humans live in a world where they think that everything they touch, smell, taste and total human experience and interaction is made up of atomic structure (ie, solid matter). When atom and atomic structure are not a solid substance, it is only human perception in their limited belief system that is downloaded into them from life experience that makes human activity limited and bound to this prison planet.

    As we are to look for life out there in the vastness of space, we must accept life will not only look like us. Most of it will be beyond all comprehension (ie. no need for space craft or any type of technology to go from A to B). You must remember that you yourselves are not defined by your physical presence only the life force that remains within until it is released back to the source.
    Hi Gecko, I don't need to see, with my own eyes, the other 98% of the electromagnetic spectrum, I have technology for that and that technology is pretty good at seeing that other 98%, there's no evidence of any other life in that other 98% !

    What I mean is the electromagnetic spectrum is simply ALL forms of light, it's all the same stuff namely Photons. We see because Photons are absorbed and re-emitted by matter under the second law of thermodynamics.

    All of our meaningful experience of the world is communicated to us via two forces, Gravity and Electromagnetism, almost all of our technology is based on the Electromagnetic force, the only exception is nuclear technology which is based on the Weak and to some extent the Strong force, everything else, all of Chemistry and day to day mechanics, is Quantum Electrodynamics and Gravity.

    Chemistry and "Life" by direct descent are emergent properties of the four fundamental forces. The matter, "stuff", we are made of is governed by all four forces and the Strong force which governs the internal properties of atoms is indirectly responsible for the existence of atoms in the first place, you need the charge on the protons in the nucleus to balance the charge on the electrons so the nucleus and the strong force make possible the electronic (arrangement of electrons) around atoms in the first place.

    So the Strong force arranges the nucleus while the electromagnetic force is expressed in it's carrier particle the Photon, and Gravity affects everything in ways we cannot fully explain but for which we have extraordinarily accurate equations (Einstein's General theory of Relativity).

    The reason that complex life forms like us can arise in the first place is that the four forces together allow for complex arrangements of electrons surrounding the nuclei of atoms, it is the complexity of electron configuration that allows for the interaction of one chemical element with another, it's called Chemistry.

    We know of nothing else in the realm of the four forces that is sufficiently complex to support the amount of information present in living organisms. Any self replicating system is going to be complex, a self aware self replicating system is going to be extremely complex and is going to need an environment that is capable of supporting that complexity.

    The Sci-Fi idea's of energy beings that exist in some kind of ghostly version of space and time are nonsense, energy in that sense is electromagnetic radiation and it all travels at the same speed 300,000 kilometres per second, not much chance for something made of that kind of stuff to hang around anywhere for any length of time?

    Other types of Ghostly matter? Ok Neutrinos, these are perfect candiates for Ghosts they are the single most abundent particle in the Universe and they interact with almost nothing, the Sun, our local star, spews out trillions of billions of trillions of them every second and they pass right through the earth without touching anything as if we were not there, but these things are fundamental particles they have no chemistry they do some very basic things and it is extremely hard to see how they could carry enough information to support a life form.

    This is a long post already, probably too long, so I will draw it to a close. What I am trying to say is there is no game in town except matter, "stuff", like everything you see around you every day, yes there are other ghostly things that science knows about but all of it is too simplistic to support the level of complexity of things that we call life.

    For life you need matter and you probably need Carbon based life sa it is the only element that seems to support the required complexity. Silicon life? Why did it not happen here, we have lot of Silicon, lots more silicon than Carbon. Probably didn't happen because, you guessed it, it can't support the complexity required for life.

    There are lots of things that we as a species do not know, much that we are ignorant of and by god we have a huge amount to learn however we already know an awful lot and that knowledge is NOT going to turn out to be totally wrong tomorrow morning, it might get added to be modified and enhanced but anything new still has to explain the same observations that we have already made!

    It's evolution NOT revolution, Science does not get wiped away and completly replaced when new ideas are explored or new insights gained, new theories have to explain old results from older theories. Einstein's 1905 theory of Special Relativity explained the whole of Newtonian mechanics but Newtonian mechanics did not explain what happened when you were travelling close to the speed of light, Special Relativty did explain that and with unparralled accuracy that has only ever been more accuratly confirmed by any experiments conducted.

    Likewise Quantum Electrodynamics has been the most successful theory in history (almost all of our modern technology relies on it one way or another) but it has nothing in it to explain the results of Special and General Relativity hence the desire to find a Quantum theory of Gravity.

    Aliens are going to get the same results as us in their experiments, if they don't then all of Science is nonsense and we live in a world of magic in which case you are welcome to believe in Aliens and Fairy's, Leprechaun's and the Loch Ness monster.

    Personally I feel as the great Carl Sagan did, if we are alone in the sheer enormity of the Universe, then it is an awful waste of space.

    I cannot believe that we are the only sentient life form in the entire
    Universe but I don't think sentient life is very common either and I certainly don't think Aliens have visited this planet recently.


    Jim

    P.S. that Sagan quote, I would advise anyone to read Sagan in particular "Contact" where that quote comes from. Biggest most mind blowing idea I ever heard was his idea in the book (only fiction) that the Aliens had discovered what they thought was a message in the number pi. Pi is a trancendental number this means that it doesn't repeat it has no patterns in the sequence of its decimal digits. He suggested that the creator of our Universe had left an imprint in the structure of the mathematical logic in our Universe, a binary message hidden in the number string of Pi's digits 10 to the power 20 decimal places into the string! Awsome idea

    They left that out of the movie sadly but if they had included it there would have been even more very very confused people walking out the cinema


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