The propaganda thrown out by the Western and the Middle Eastern politicians and TV stations is absolutely ridiculous, sit and watch Al Jazeera in a morning followed by BBC news, and usually work out the real story somewhere in the middle...

And for the other thread and JohnUK, well I saw the title and decided not to look because really don't want to get into a thread like that. Simple freedom, people are free to post their views, and others are free to argue or ignore it. No harm. But censorship, I really don't agree with.