Peterborough - what a tip

[David House]

Actually I thought the thread was about Peterborough. I once heard it said that Manchester was a very good place to go to die, as the transition from life to death was hardly noticeable.

I completely agree about the need to moderate the level of EU immigration, and I guess many politicians do too, but how to achieve it is the problem. Keeping out those who abuse the system cannot be argued against but again it is how to manage it. Everyone wants to do it, and I think some of the latest measures will make a big difference. If you have anything to do with overseas student visas, as I do, you will know just how that system was being abused and how the new regulations have tightened it up. Unfortunately it also means that the door is firmly shut on most Filipinos managing to find a way to get over here, whilst still being wide open to everyone from the east of Europe, where the controls on who actually qualify seem pretty lax. We have plenty of Russians in Wisbech, and they only get in through claiming the citizenship of places like Latvia and Estonia.

[Alan]

I usually stay clear of political and religious discussions - as those of you who know me will testify.
The reasons I do so are:-

1. Philosophical viewpoints are just that! There is no right or wrong.
2. Social viewpoints are, once again, mainly biased - and arguments can be put for or against - perhaps with evidence taken from the media.

There are usually simple, but inconclusive answers to views made in these two highly volatile subjects. We do, however, tend to OVERestimate our own views to the point of thinking that OUR views and ideas are the correct ones. Like politicians, we feel that WE have the answers.

Now, we all know that the politicians (whom most of us elect in the first place) are a bunch of promise-breaking liars - that's how they get into power in the first place - however - electoral systems the world over (only in so-called democracies I must add!) brainwash the electorate! Why else would you put your X next to a person you:-

a) Have never met.
b) Don't know from Adam
c) Don't REALLY believe they will do what they promise to do.

The need to moderate the level of EU immigration stems from successive, pathetic a**e-licking governments that we have had to tolerate since the 1970s. (Philosophical viewpoint!)

It is now, of course, too late to do anything about this situation. A repeal will take a generation to be effective - and so we must, I'm afraid, 'take what we've got!'

I sit here, as a married man, with overwhelming sadness because the woman I love remains 7,000 miles away from my embrace - but that is the system - I must abide.

However, I do know this - and that is that I shall leave this so-called democracy as soon as I possibly can! If and when I can get Hanna over here, I shall allow her the opportunity of making her judgement - if she wants to stay - so be it - but, knowing Hanna as I do, after three years of marriage, I somehow doubt it!

Al.

[joebloggs]

We have plenty of Russians in Wisbech, and they only get in through claiming the citizenship of places like Latvia and Estonia.

well that's no surprise, the Baltic's are full of Russians, if i remember correctly the Baltics were only ever free from being ruled by another country btw the 2 world wars and until the collapse of the soviet union in 1991.

i use to work with a guy who said he was born in Russia and he claimed to have grown up in Lithuania, but was always cagey when i asked him about visa's etc and about Lithuania (my parents are from Lithuania) so there probably is a 'scam' where Russians are claiming citizenship of a Baltic state which enables them to work anywhere in Europe..

[Dedworth]

well that's no surprise, the Baltic's are full of Russians, if i remember correctly the Baltics were only ever free from being ruled by another country btw the 2 world wars and until the collapse of the soviet union in 1991.

i use to work with a guy who said he was born in Russia and he claimed to have grown up in Lithuania, but was always cagey when i asked him about visa's etc and about Lithuania (my parents are from Lithuania) so there probably is a 'scam' where Russians are claiming citizenship of a Baltic state which enables them to work anywhere in Europe..

Some of these scams are state sponsored - Romania has given citizenship to a million Moldovans (Europes poorest country) - no prizes for guessing where that lot will be heading for jobs, benefits, healthcare and housing. The other EU nations have disgracefully pretended not to see this going on for "political" reasons.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-Britain.html