Help my friend got married in philippines but now he been told his marriage not valid

[malditako]

Sorry if I am being obtuse.

As both parties are Filipinos I don't see why they need any paperwork from UK.

I am on the point of getting Irish Nationality which will mean dual Irish/ British. If I were to go to Ireland and get married to an Irish Citizen why would UK become involved ?

In this case surely all that needs sorting is the RP paperwork to show that both parties were Filipinos. I would think that could be done without both parties being present in RP.

Am I missing something ?

if my memory serves me correct (correct me if not) when the phil goverment first introduce the dual citizenship mainly for a reason that a natural born filipino can still own a property thus exempt them to pay more taxes among others not became a foreign to their native land...what i can see here is that he was asked for CNI maybe b'coz he is not actually a resident of the philippine for along time...CNI was introduced to protect the right of filipino as there were so many cases before that a foreigner marry a filipina but also married to someone else in their country...same with the UK embassy...there were cases that a british marry a married pinay as well...so now the UK embassy required CNI as well from filipina who is going to marry a brit national..

[johncar54]

OK, so you may think I am splitting hairs, but if one is going to think that a Filipino with dual nationality might lie about being married in another country, how about a Filipino who has lived in another country, or say were employed as a seaman, etc., should they get a CNI from every country they have visited to ensure they are not married anywhere else.


I cannot imagine that because a UK citizen may have lived in another country that he/she would be asked for a CNI from that / those countries,if they were getting married in UK.

The law in UK (and I assume anywhere else, including RP) covers misleading/false statements when applying for a marriage licence, its called perjury.

[malditako]

OK, so you may think I am splitting hairs, but if one is going to think that a Filipino with dual nationality might lie about being married in another country, how about a Filipino who has lived in another country, or say were employed as a seaman, etc., should they get a CNI from every country they have visited to ensure they are not married anywhere else.


I cannot imagine that because a UK citizen may have lived in another country that he/she would be asked for a CNI from that / those countries,if they were getting married in UK.

The law in UK (and I assume anywhere else, including RP) covers misleading/false statements when applying for a marriage licence, its called perjury.

if a filipino who live elsewhere were about to get married and were asked for CNI where to du think they will get it?...its still in phils not where they have worked or live...but since the topic person holds dual nationality he was asked to do the same.

when we were at the consul uk embassy in manila there's a couple who is applying for CNI one is brit and one is a filipina who holds a british passport...they were both required a CNI to get married in philippines and another CNI for filipina from NSO even though she was in UK for a long time...

[johncar54]

if a filipino who live elsewhere were about to get married and were asked for CNI where to du think they will get it?...its still in phils not where they have worked or live...but since the topic person holds dual nationality he was asked to do the same.

when we were at the consul uk embassy in manila there's a couple who is applying for CNI one is brit and one is a filipina who holds a british passport...they were both required a CNI to get married in philippines and another CNI for filipina from NSO even though she was in UK for a long time...

But I don't think we are on the same wave length.

You quote a 'Filipino who lives elsewhere' but if that person had a passport (nationality) for that country surely they would expect to be treated as a person who has that nationality, not as a Filipino, unless they choose to use that ID.

My Filipino wife is applying for Spanish Nationality. When it is granted she will be Spanish (as well as Filipino) and entitled to be treated as Spanish. She will not need a visa to visit UK or Gibraltar for example, unless she wanted to enter as a Filipino. If she visits any other country using her Spanish passport she will be treated as Spanish. That would include RF. If she entered on her Spanish Passport she would be subject to the rules applying to Foreigners.

In your second paragraph you refer to a dual nationality person. You say one was British the other held a UK passport. I do not think that the dual nationality person was obliged to behave as if they were not a Filipino unless that was the ID they were choosing to use. Had they said they were Filipino, as you say they were (British as well) I would be surprised if they could not proceed as a Filipino.

If every one who had dual nationality had to comply with the rules appertaining to both countries what would be the point of holding the second nationality?

[somebody]

But I don't think we are on the same wave length.

You quote a 'Filipino who lives elsewhere' but if that person had a passport (nationality) for that country surely they would expect to be treated as a person who has that nationality, not as a Filipino, unless they choose to use that ID.

My Filipino wife is applying for Spanish Nationality. When it is granted she will be Spanish (as well as Filipino) and entitled to be treated as Spanish. She will not need a visa to visit UK or Gibraltar for example, unless she wanted to enter as a Filipino. If she visits any other country using her Spanish passport she will be treated as Spanish. That would include RF. If she entered on her Spanish Passport she would be subject to the rules applying to Foreigners.

In your second paragraph you refer to a dual nationality person. You say one was British the other held a UK passport. I do not think that the dual nationality person was obliged to behave as if they were not a Filipino unless that was the ID they were choosing to use. Had they said they were Filipino, as you say they were (British as well) I would be surprised if they could not proceed as a Filipino.

If every one who had dual nationality had to comply with the rules appertaining to both countries what would be the point of holding the second nationality?

But if the Judge insists on a British CNI converted to one accepted in the RP then it really doesn't matter I guess. I presuming the fact he could of married in the UK as he is a citzen there means its imperative to the Judge to ensure that he hasn't.

I do understand where your coming from though John.

Plus as the ruling Joe Blogss quoted it appears the Judge has followed that.

As we know those with the power need to be appeased


PS others on this website have had there CNI sent over and taken in to be converted by a third party. But you would need to search the site for the actual post/s. Plus the conversion of CNI after the Wedding may cause issues..