hi gparry, thanks for reply, my kids are 2years and oldest nearly 4years, my wife will not let me bring my kids to uk, i went 2 rp in june to try and she got the police and i was taken to local police station,they did tell me that i have 2 prove shes a bad mother, but they didnt say that the kids have 2 be 7years old 2 bring them to uk if i can prove that she is. the brit embassy said i dont need to get permision to leave with them at the airport in rp as they got brit passports and brit birthcerts..