Pinoy racism?

[RickyR]

Very dependant on the situation, but unfortunately some of the Filipina that have married white men and are living in the UK are finding it's not the dream they thought and are pretty rude. It seems to have stopped, but a while back on the chatbox, some of the discussions in tagalog and visayan were pretty scathing towards the husbands by a few ladies who seem to have disappeared again.
The Filipino workers in the UK tend to be in the cities and often don't integrate and prefer to live in areas and with kabian. Then in the major cities in the Philippines, the expats tend to not integrate a great deal and some have a low view of the locals. In the province, they don't have much option but to integrate.

My missus has family in the UK, and when we over last time she went with them to a local Filipino gathering, and came back a little disheartened at some of the attitude towards the British that was displayed there. When one of the people told her, it's ok stick with your man, he's wealthy, she tried to explain about love and was pretty much laughed at.

When you have two cultures, there is always going to be some difficulty, especially if you can easily stay with your own.

I think also that of the brit-filipina relationships, that only a proportion of them work out, and those seem to be the people that have gone in with their eyes open and have put a lot of effort into the relationship. Also a little bit of luck has a bit to play.

[JimOttley]

When you have two cultures, there is always going to be some difficulty, especially if you can easily stay wih your own.

I think also that of the brit-filipina relationships, that only a proportion of them work out, and those seem to be the people that have gone in with their eyes open and have put a lot of effort into the relationship. Also a little bit of luck has a bit to play.

Some good points and an interesting thread.

You are right but sometimes no matter how much effort both parties put in it can still go wrong.

I have seen racism in the Phils, oddly colour racism re dark African or middle east people which I found very strange but in reality the Phils does not have a huge proportion of foreigners and as such most foreigners are tolerated pretty well but there are exceptions as people here are pointing out.

The myth that we are all rich is widespread and you can feel that everyday everywhere, many many people expect unreasonable tips just because you are a rich westerner. I always tip for good service, in a taxi that might be a direct route and a nice conversation or even just because the poor guys cab is falling apart but he is still nice to us. In a restaurant lots of attention, politeness accuracy and so on, same as you would do anywhere really. Not all Filipinos are motivated by just money and a very great many are just really nice people but to some extent and because of the poverty there are a large number who are materialistic and have horribly naive views of the world.

In relation to this while we are tolerated just now and as folk are pointing out westerners (really all developed countries, Japan and Korea are included here) are sometimes seen as rich prospects for marriage personally I think this will change over time. The mismatch in wealth between countries will level off, our currency and the dollar are both headed for significant deflation over the next 4 or 5 years and there will eventually be a realisation that the rich foreigners are not really rich after all.

For those lassies who have made the leap of faith and come to the UK they can often find that life is the UK is not a lot of fun unless you are obscenely wealthy. It's cold, dark, we have a bad diet, entertainment is limited, everybody works too many hours, you absolutely have to have a car or you are trapped wherever you are, the people are not always that easy to approach, making friends can be very hard for a foreign lad or lassie in the UK and it's fricking expensive living here!

At least one girl on here recently was terribly treated by her UK family and is now out of that relationship the family she was involved with were brutes, I felt very very sad for her but I hope she finds a good future in the UK.

So racism, yes it exists, perhaps to a lesser degree than the UK but the Philippines is at a much earlier stage of adapting to a modern foreign population and the size of that foreign population is much less than that experienced by the UK over the last 40 or 50 years. (clearly the phils has adapted to many foreign populations over the century's Spanish, Americans, Japs etc.) but right now the foreigners are in a distinct minority.

As a result we should always be very aware that we are just guests, if we want to reduce the feelings of racism against us then we need to be the best people we can be, we need to lead by example and show our hosts our basic humanity, decency and our individual integrity.

That does not mean we have to roll over and accept mistreatment but we need to make a statement of our personal values and live up to them.

Things will change in the Philippines over the next 20 years, population pressure is going to change an awful lot of things but I hope it does not destroy what we love about these people!


Jim