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    Ive yet to experience this racism trait in Filipinos towards white westerners..
    Some Filipinos cannot control their jealousy and this can lead to problems if not handled correctly. It may also be mistaken on occassion as racism to some white foreigners..Not me though.
    Ive heard them relate to black men as niggers but I think they use that word out of ignorance and I doubt most understand the significance of th N word,just that it relates in some way to black Africans.
    Ive also noticed that white skinned Filipino`s are often given favour by the general populace and looked up upon and is the reason why the whitening skin products are a booming industry here..
    There is much discrimination re: Filipino against fellow Filipino often based on skin colour,height,education,finances or lack of etc etc.
    This behaviour does seem to have become ingrained in the culture but I still do not think of it as racism..More judgmental snobbery than anything else. IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Ive yet to experience this racism trait in Filipinos towards white westerners..
    Some Filipinos cannot control their jealousy and this can lead to problems if not handled correctly. It may also be mistaken on occassion as racism to some white foreigners..Not me though.
    Ive heard them relate to black men as niggers but I think they use that word out of ignorance and I doubt most understand the significance of th N word,just that it relates in some way to black Africans.
    Ive also noticed that white skinned Filipino`s are often given favour by the general populace and looked up upon and is the reason why the whitening skin products are a booming industry here..
    There is much discrimination re: Filipino against fellow Filipino often based on skin colour,height,education,finances or lack of etc etc.
    This behaviour does seem to have become ingrained in the culture but I still do not think of it as racism..More judgmental snobbery than anything else. IMO
    That's a very good point Fred, yes it's probably judgmental snobbery rather than racism and the boss is right as well the word is used too often at the wrong time.

    The personal instance of actual racism that I was talking about is real though, it is a personal failing of my partner she has what amount to xenophobic feelings about some people. Actually on reflection even this may not really be racism and prejudice as it is something deep seated in her

    I think the boss is right the word racism is overused, real racism is driven by feelings of superiority over others, a belief in inherent superior properties of one race over an other.

    Xenophobia is another thing.

    So yes I think I tend to agree with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimOttley View Post
    I think the boss is right the word racism is overused,
    As in the last Labour Govt when for a long while any criticism or deviance from the decreed party line on the vote rigging immigration policy, asylum seekers or our "multicultural society" was deemed racist and politically incorrect. Of course this mantra was dropped in the last 18 months or so before the election when they knew the game was up

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimOttley View Post
    That's a very good point Fred, yes it's probably judgmental snobbery rather than racism and the boss is right as well the word is used too often at the wrong time.

    The personal instance of actual racism that I was talking about is real though, it is a personal failing of my partner she has what amount to xenophobic feelings about some people. Actually on reflection even this may not really be racism and prejudice as it is something deep seated in her

    I think the boss is right the word racism is overused, real racism is driven by feelings of superiority over others, a belief in inherent superior properties of one race over an other.

    Xenophobia is another thing.

    So yes I think I tend to agree with you.
    Spot on some Phills can be xenophobic and ignorant of people of other backgrounds but rarely racist.

    Most is simply coming from backgrounds which are much like my grandparents where they knew little of people from abroad compared to what we know now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Ive yet to experience this racism trait in Filipinos towards white westerners..
    Some Filipinos cannot control their jealousy and this can lead to problems if not handled correctly. It may also be mistaken on occasion as racism to some white foreigners..Not me though.
    Ive heard them relate to black men as niggers but I think they use that word out of ignorance and I doubt most understand the significance of th N word,just that it relates in some way to black Africans.
    Ive also noticed that white skinned Filipino`s are often given favour by the general populace and looked up upon and is the reason why the whitening skin products are a booming industry here..
    There is much discrimination re: Filipino against fellow Filipino often based on skin colour,height,education,finances or lack of etc etc.
    This behaviour does seem to have become ingrained in the culture but I still do not think of it as racism..More judgmental snobbery than anything else. IMO
    this is very true. i live in the city and here alone, fellow filipinos discriminate against each other. i observe in the provinces, when a foreigner is a veteran visitor and has already learned how to rub pinoys in the right way, he'll have slaves left and right who will when their relatives got a foreigner for a bf or husband, it is considered a jackpot. and yes, jealousy sometimes crawl its way in.

    i come from a lower middle class family but like rayna said, having a fairly white skin is sometimes an advantage here. neighbors would always think we are rich that they will always ask for help. and if you dont help them, then they would "feel the need to chat about that, and most of this will be with resentment." my sister is married to a dutchman and once a neighbor told me, "hey, your mom must be rich coz you she got a foreigner for a son-in-law." i immediately answered her that we all got separate lives and my mom got the pride up her neck to even ask her kids to support her. to send some to help out voluntarily, yes. BUT it's not a requirement. my sister is studying dutch right now and cant practice her medical profession in netherlands just yet so it means she's not earning. although my mom is not saying it, i can feel she needs help too coz our youngest is also on his medicine proper now.

    some families here tend to ask money and support from their daughters who are married to foreigners thinking when you're abroad, you are R-I-C-H
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