how many guys didn't attend the seminar ? I didn't
I thought if both of you are over 30 (or over 25 with parental consent ) then the seminar is legally not required.
well thats what i always thought, my fiance is over 25, but i had to do it, also i did try offering to pay to avoid it but that didnt work either. I think each municipality has its own way, who knows, its done now but a long way to go for a seminar