Is lying ever acceptable in a relationship?

[dontpushme]

I know of several Pinays who are highly educated and for one reason or other have been left carrying the Baby for them the well off family and their education has meant like dontpushme says they can survive and take on the world but thats a small percentage of the female population of Phill who can do that it appears..

On the not mentioning the second child again twisted logic to us Brits maybe?

Yeah, money and connections make a lot of difference in the Philippines. If you have neither, there's really no chance that you won't be ostracised for "being a hussy".

LOL! I don't know about that whole second child thing. I think one should be completely honest about that sort of thing from the start. Haha! You can't just go, "thanks for the honeymoon! that was lovely! oh, and here's a picture of your new stepson. his name's Wossname." But that's just me. I guess no matter how old you are, the stigma of having kids and no husband will still stick. So maybe fewer kids in tow will mean less embarrassment for some women.

I think sometimes us Brits look at things with a British mindest and forget not all humans think quite the same way. Not to say what your ex wife did was in any way excusable.

Amen! Sometimes we just all need to step back and look at things from another angle.

Yes, sorry it seemed like I had a real rant there.

I'm really becoming a grumpy old man these days.

I could never consider deserting a child (or embryo ?) of mine.

For me, bringing up kids has just been a wonderful experience.

No, you have a point. I've always felt that way too whenever another friend comes and tells me she's pregnant and she doesn't know what to do. It gets really hard to not tell them to stop whining about the guy and just accept that if they'd kept their happy little legs together, that problem wouldn't have happened in the first place. In the end, I give in and give my support as a friend, but sometimes I can't help those thoughts either. It's not all the guys' fault.

(Even if I can't hear myself think as I write this...my son playing his electric guitar...bless him. )

Haha! At least your son's not stomping around being mean to the family. I'd take a cacophony of "music" over yelling and screaming any day.