John, I know how to do this with fully encrypted and secure service, but I not sure if I am allowed to put the website on this forum.Originally Posted by johncar54
I watched BBC iPlayer last May in RP via this service. (UK elections -- How sad is that?)
It's not a free service, but also not expensive (about 70 Euros per year)
Perhaps one of the moderators can advise me if I am allowed to provide website??
John, forgot to mention, you can choose the country of the server at any time from a drop down menu. Also no need to worry about download limits as you only need to use the server at the very start, just to access.
is it .identitycloaker
you can try it for 10 days for less than £5.
You appear from your profile to be in UK.
If you know we can access progs from UK when we live abroad, can you please be more specific how it can be done. I think a lot of us, who have been trying for a long time, would like to know.
Yes joebloggs, it is.is it .identitycloaker
you can try it for 10 days for less than £5.
Just I'm very unclear on the legal issues these days. Thats why I hesitated.
It worked perfectly for me.
But do you know it always works from anywhere in the world? Anyone who is doing so please give us the full info.is it .identitycloaker
you can try it for 10 days for less than £5.
Thanks
http://www.torproject.org/
anyway back to the program, as steve r says did you hear any complaints, i am 1 of 13 kids and in those days there seemed to be lots off big families, we all got by did not have much but watching the program was just like watching us years ago, i know nothing like that but not far off,today i could not do that and i dont think its right bringing kids into a place that you know you cant afford to keep them, yes thats my opinion and each to there own , good luck to them all and god bless them too
John, just google.
The software I use works from anywhere in the world. I have used in in RP, Japan,
SPAIN, France and USA.
I agree, and I suspect the people in the programme also agree. In fact one young mother said she hoped she would not get pregnant again during the 4-6 month wait for her steralisation.
Sad to say the obvious (to those in the west) solutions to this do not follow an easy path in Phils (and many other countries).
the easy answer for anyone to say here , is dont have any more kids , but as we know its not as easy as that,i am just so glad that my emma is here with me
Contraceptive implants last for 3yrs
and thats all that matters
yes we all would like to save the world make our partners family happy too, but hey ho they are, i took emma off there hands
I had the same problem as Mick but then tried again and just managed to watch it.
As an outsider, the answers to many of the problems suffered are so clear and family planning/ contraception is a key player but I do understand the constraints that the catholic church impose. Clearly church reform is needed in this area, putting the welfare of people first rather than trying to selfishly boost the church's coffers ...........
I must have had a “senior moment”
I got it to work by allowing pop ups, only to find it was the same programme
Mick.
[QUOTE=stevewool;251888, good luck to them all and god bless them too[/QUOTE]
totally agree Steve.
Agree also I just could not imagine living in those dreadful conditions, I don’t think I would ever sleep
Mick.
Mick, just watched it on you tube with micky73 link. just click on the "watch on you tube"I cant get the video from mikey73 to work either and I am in the UK
It says “Embedding disabled by request watch on
YouTube
But the link just produces two clicking sounds?
Mick.
I mentioned to my wife that in China its one child per couple but that means girl babies get aborted or allowed to die when born, as only boys are looked upon as insurance for old age.
My wife said in RP its girls who are more appreciated as they are more likely to help feed and support the family whilst males are out gambling, drinking and fornicating !!!
My wife was involved as a health worker in Rizal (15 miles from Manila). She and her colleagues were trying to educate people about health issues and family planning. They used to hand out free condoms in the hope it might help. The problem though is the Church. The priests threaten hell for those who use contraception, so what chance do poorly educated people have ?
The thing I find difficult to understand (I was brought up as a Catholic) is that to practice the rhythm method (better regarded as Russian Roulette) is allowed, but that is birth control, so how does that in reality differ from using a condom? It's not like abortion (which I am against) which takes the life of a child. Contraception, as the name implies, prevents conception.
Mystified.
I've not seen this program, our internet is too slow here at work. But, I have been into the poorest areas of Manila and have seen first hand the way people live. People living alongside the dead in a cemetary, where literally a whole shanty town has been built on stilts above it, with nothing but garbage below, and the same in Smokey Mountain. I met a lady who'd had 12 children, only 4 had survived, and her baby had just died the day before. She seemed to take it in her stride with no emotion. I would love for everyone to see this, to realise how people live.
when i was out there with seeing emma for the first time , yes what you read and see on tv does help a little, we all live the way we want and some have the futune to move on and better themselves others just cant ,but the kindness that is shown there to others is beyong me, we was eating out in china town and we did not finish what we was eating, rather then leave it emma asked to take it out , the once out emma gave it to a very young child,this happened on many occasions, that made me realize just how kind some people are , me i would give a few pesos here and there , but emma says thats wrong better to give food and give it to the children too, just so sad sometimes what we see but to those it is a everyday thing
Yes, it IS, unfortunately, Steve ... and you're right- even so, no human being should be forced to live in such degrading and disease-ridden conditions as we witnessed there!
So right Arthur. But who really is to blame here?? Unfortunately, the answer is not a popular one, it is the Catholic Church. Several people here have already said it, they actively oppose birth control so that the poor stay poor, and supposedly the only hope is within the walls of the church who's coffers get bigger and bigger. The government is powerless to oppose the church and the cycle continues.
It is so annoying that the church has not looked any further than the steps of their doors and seen the poverty it inflicts on so many.They can pray and pay!!!
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
Didnt see either of the two programes but sadly from one of the Wifes friends who works for a charity when not studying for dentistry she told us that sadly whole extended familys of females find themsleves as web cam girls, bar girls and prositutes in phill
can be more upsetting than the program on tv last night about teenage girls forced into prostitution in cambodia, many sold by their families
Although slightly different both shocking situations
PS TOR is a good at making you intracable but its not without its issues so make sure you understand what it does and doesn't do..
Also be careful of paying to far in advance/to much for proxy services as sometimes people have found some services become at least temporarily useless when the proxy is identified and blocked
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
if you've got an hour andy, its aworld out there
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscre...sode/b00vcwdd/
manila over population has got worse in the slums of manila, since mayor lim has cleaned up roxas blvd and other places in manila from the street vendors, to bring in more tourists from other countries, were are all those poor people ment to go and more importantly how are they going to make a living to support ther familys. the rp goverment dont care about the poor in rp, and they never will,the goverment is corupt and always will be, as they are greedy and are living in ther mansions.
I'm Catholic and I'm all for contraception. I know that's unpopular among Catholics, but I'd rather have people using contraception than have them killing babies or bringing them up in a world of suffering and poverty.Won't say any more, as I wouldn't want to upset the Catholic members.
That's something I'd blame your welfare system for. It's the same here in the US. Way too many people sit around on their lazy asses. In the Philippines, if you don't work, you don't eat. Simple as that. And the sense of community makes people happy. When my bf visited Manila last December, he looked so depressed looking out the car's window and seeing whole families living out of 3'x6' pushcarts. I told him to look again and try to identify the unhappy ones. He couldn't find a single one of those people who didn't look happy. Being a part of a larger community where everyone cares for everyone else helps. It's something I learned while working as a catechist in the slums in Manila.
Whether the masa (masses) believe him or not, they've always had the attitude of "every child is another pair of hands to help with the work," not "every child is another mouth to feed." Many of the domestic helpers we had while I was growing up came from big families and when I asked them why they had such large families, the answers were usually because they had more hands that way or because they were so poor that the parents didn't have anything fun to do other than have sex.
I went to a private school with shifts. There were always so many children there, but the reason there were shifts was that the owners were greedy and just wanted more money. It was a stupid system and I have no idea why my parents put me in that place. But I can't imagine a school with just 25 students in seven year levels. How in blue blazes do the kids have anyone to do homework with or to play school yard games with?
I'm sure a lot of the people in the RP with big families would rather have fewer kids, but even if they did accept contraceptives as a good alternative, how would you expect them to be able to afford condoms when they probably can't even buy food? And good luck to whomever tries to make them stop having sex. It's practically the last free bit of fun they have anyway.
We don't have a lot of the free stuff the rest of the world has. Free healthcare? Pfft! Welfare checks? Forget about it! Those things are not gonna happen in the Philippines.
Again, who's gonna pay for that? Did you know a lot of prostitutes in the Philippines wash and reuse condoms? Things that are free or cheap in the Western world are pretty expensive if you consider the amount that people earn in the Philippines and similar countries.
The sad thing is, part of the reason these people are happy is their faith. If that gets someone through a life of hardships, would you really wanna take it away? Then again, that one topic (contraception) has to be discussed and people need to be enlightened. The Philippines looks more and more like a sinking ship with that birth rate.
It's horrible how she could just shrug that off, and I still haven't been able to accept it (read your post a few times now). But after eight of her children have died, I can understand how she's numb to it.
I didn't think the shanties in the cemeteries were a big issue until I read this topic and daw it from the eyes of an outsider. Maybe Filipinos just need a push to see things the way they should be seen. We might be a little too used to hardships to see them as such anymore.
Giving to the poor is something we're all used to in the RP. When Burger King first opened on Katipunan Ave., they offered free drink refills. I think they stopped doing that because of all the people refilling their drinks and giving the full cups to the children selling sampaguita garlands outside.
Also, Emma's right. Give food, not money. When I lived in Makati, my walk from the office to the house took me past the Mandarin Oriental Hotel. That intersection had a triangle of shrubs where grown men hid while the children they were with begged or sold flowers (same intersection where vice girls/gays stood around looking for prospects). These men usually took the children's earnings. I never gave those children money and some of them refused the food because they wanted the money (I've had food thrown at me a few times in different parts of Manila). But when they did appreciate the food, you could see so much gratitude in their eyes.
Agreed. I'm wondering how long the slum in front of my high school will last. :( I hope they leave it alone. Those people were really nice to me when I went there to buy sodas (which had been banned from the cafeteria) or wood for my woodworking class.
Honestly, I like slums. This is not because the people are poor or the place is dirty, but because some of the wisest and kindest people I know live/lived in slums. I grew up in Bel-Air (Makati), a gated community where our neighbors included diplomats and politicians, but I've always had an affinity to the people in the slums.
Agreed. I'm wondering how long the slum in front of my high school will last. :( I hope they leave it alone. Those people were really nice to me when I went there to buy sodas (which had been banned from the cafeteria) or wood for my woodworking class.
Honestly, I like slums. This is not because the people are poor or the place is dirty, but because some of the wisest and kindest people I know live/lived in slums. I grew up in Bel-Air (Makati), a gated community where our neighbors included diplomats and politicians, but I've always had an affinity to the people in the slums.......................................................................
thats good to hear that you dont look down on people in the slums, but most pinoys from rich pinoy family do and certaintly a lot from bel-air. the people that have to live in slums are wise people as they have learned the hard way, and as you say some are the most kindest people, thats because they have learned to help each other in hard times and not like some of the rich pinoys that dont need each others help, they just go to the bank and get more peso to help themselfs out..
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