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    "future major conflicts" everywhere would be significantly reduced by resolving the Palestinian problem.
    Racism and Xenophobia are not beneficial in the search for a solution to find more peace on Earth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    "future major conflicts" everywhere would be significantly reduced by resolving the Palestinian problem.
    Racism and Xenophobia are not beneficial in the search for a solution to find more peace on Earth.
    I'm not sure that is the case. The Israeli state was only created during the mid 1900's. It's true that some of the anger of these militants is directed at the west for supporting Israel, but it is not the whole story. It doesn't explain the deep seated hatred between Muslim's and Hindu's or Budhists. Al Quaeda will attack Indian targets just as readily as they will attack a western target. This is nothing to do with India supporting Israel or the West. Throughout history there has been many major conflicts between Muslim armies and other religions. I've been to India many times and heard many stories of attrocities committed by Muslims against Hindu's, Seikh's and Christian's. During the 15th and 16th centuries the Moghul Emperors sacked much of Southern India around the centre of the Vijayanagar Kingdom. Thousands of years of Hindu temples and statues were destroyed and defiled at Hampi.
    The Modern Islamic militants can be traced back to a Kashmiri militant who was around in 1880, and who inspired the Algerian and Yemeni revival of Islamic militancy.
    I don't agree with the West (paricularly the US') support for Israel, but don't for one minute think that solving the Palestinian problem will make all of this go away. Al Quaeda's goal is to create an islamic state stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific (Portugal to the Philippines), and they would still strive for this even if a Palestinian state were created today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishman2010 View Post
    I'm not sure that is the case. The Israeli state was only created during the mid 1900's. It's true that some of the anger of these militants is directed at the west for supporting Israel, but it is not the whole story. It doesn't explain the deep seated hatred between Muslim's and Hindu's or Budhists. Al Quaeda will attack Indian targets just as readily as they will attack a western target. This is nothing to do with India supporting Israel or the West. Throughout history there has been many major conflicts between Muslim armies and other religions. I've been to India many times and heard many stories of attrocities committed by Muslims against Hindu's, Seikh's and Christian's. During the 15th and 16th centuries the Moghul Emperors sacked much of Southern India around the centre of the Vijayanagar Kingdom. Thousands of years of Hindu temples and statues were destroyed and defiled at Hampi.
    The Modern Islamic militants can be traced back to a Kashmiri militant who was around in 1880, and who inspired the Algerian and Yemeni revival of Islamic militancy.
    I don't agree with the West (paricularly the US') support for Israel, but don't for one minute think that solving the Palestinian problem will make all of this go away. Al Quaeda's goal is to create an islamic state stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific (Portugal to the Philippines), and they would still strive for this even if a Palestinian state were created today.
    A great reply, well done.
    I have chatted a lot to UK and US Muslims and they all point the finger at the treatment of the Palestinians.
    Yes, there are other religious clashes (possibly motivated also by money) but I feel the Palestinian problem is the thorn in many sides.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I have chatted a lot to UK and US Muslims and they all point the finger at the treatment of the Palestinians.
    kinda strange chatting to muslims when your a atheists
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    kinda strange chatting to muslims when your a atheists
    Why would that be ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Why would that be ?
    wouldnt you prefer to talk to like minded people and avoid the religious topic?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    wouldnt you prefer to talk to like minded people and avoid the religious topic?
    Not really.

    I'm always happy to listen to another point of view. (Usually the religious people aren't quite so accommodating of course ).

    I didn't decide to be an atheist because of my lack of religious knowledge...on the contrary.

    In fact RE was one of my best subjects at school, until the age of 16 I attended church every Sunday, and my grandfather was a Methodist Minister.

    At some point in life you have to decide whether you're going to go along with the brain-washing or consider the subject objectively, and then draw your own conclusions. That's what I did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    kinda strange chatting to muslims when your a atheists
    Why is it strange?

    I talk to my father who is a Christian

    I have always talked with religious people, just because you have opposing views doesn't stop dialogue.


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