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    Emma Julia
    I read your story.
    It really saddens me so much.
    I have absolutely no understanding how your partner could possibly behave in such a way.

    My prayers will be with you and your children.
    Just at this time of reading, I cannot think of a way to help you achieve a positive outcome.

    Have you contacted/informed the Canadian Embassy?

    When you talk about living together in Canada as a couple for 8 years, was this for a continious period or did your partner often make visits back to UK?


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    Thank you Emma Julia.

    Thank you Joebloggs.

    I spoke to him and all he could say to me, that he doesn't want us to go back to Canada but not offering any kind of help. All he said is to be patient and profess his love for me. It is hard that I have no means of income except spending what I have. The school is expensive, so many extra expenses for the children and I cannot even go to the groceries by myself. I can't carry heavy things or do much work even at home. I travel to Canada in a wheelchair. I will be going to the local citizenship advice this thursday and hoping that they could direct me to the right person.
    I am not certain though if I should let my ex fiance know of what I am trying to do. Should I inform him?


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    Thank you Terpe,

    He travels back and forth between two countries. The main office is in the Uk but Oil companies in Canada needs him more thats why I prefer to stay there because he stays more over there than the Uk. But eversince we decide that we will come here he made sure that his travelling will be minimized. He still travel around Uk and he always takes me and the kids.


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    Dear Emma Julia,
    When you go to see the Citizenship Advice office, try to bring someone with you for moral support. Do not tell your ex fiance what you are doing unless you have solid solution. Try to do more research. I tried t chec few things for you today and most of them ask for credit card right away. I clicked the recommended immigration lawyer for you by the name of Colin Harris and credit card is necessary again. I think it is better to speak to a lawyer in person and you could relate much better to one another. I hope someone out there could read your story and could recommend a reliable lawyer. Please hang on. So many people have good hearts that could reach up to you. Just keep praying. Do not lose hope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma Julia View Post
    I spoke to him and all he could say to me, that he doesn't want us to go back to Canada but not offering any kind of help. All he said is to be patient and profess his love for me. It is hard that I have no means of income except spending what I have. ?
    he doesn't want you to go back, but is not willing to help you, so what does he expect you to do and live off ?

    are you aware your only allowed to spend 6 months in a yr in the uk on a visit visa.


    are you living together ? from the title of your thread 'left by fiance' your not?, so probably your only hope was a Unmarried Partner visa which is one of the most difficult visas to get because you need evidence you've lived together for the last 2yrs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaBella View Post
    Dear Emma Julia,
    When you go to see the Citizenship Advice office, try to bring someone with you for moral support. Do not tell your ex fiance what you are doing unless you have solid solution. Try to do more research. I tried t chec few things for you today and most of them ask for credit card right away. I clicked the recommended immigration lawyer for you by the name of Colin Harris and credit card is necessary again. I think it is better to speak to a lawyer in person and you could relate much better to one another. I hope someone out there could read your story and could recommend a reliable lawyer. Please hang on. So many people have good hearts that could reach up to you. Just keep praying. Do not lose hope.
    i doubt CAB can help, but its worth a try,
    but try your local law centre, they might be able to help you http://www.lawcentres.org.uk/lawcentres/detail/find/

    or http://www.iasuk.org/home.aspx

    contact these people before you pay anyone.
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    Thank you Joebloggs,
    I will do that.


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    Joebloggs,
    Yes, I am aware of six months maximum for tourist. It was never a problem before because he was aware also that I need to go for my treatment in Canada. I joined the clinical trial thats why the Bristol Hospital would have taken me in as they also received funding for Clinical trial but Canada will not release my record as they claimed it is hard for them to let go that they already received the funding for me.


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    I also doubt that I will be qualified for unmarried partner visa ( De Facto) because he is not divorce yet.


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    Emma Julia
    You really need to get professional advice ASAP
    If you leave it much longer the scenario's for you and the children are not good.

    I'm not sure the CAB will be able to offer much, but still worth a try.

    Also I really believe you should inform the Canadian Embassy as they may well provide some options given your circumstances.
    Again, worth a try. ASAP

    My view is that you should not keep your 'partner' in this loop he appears to be very unhelpful. Also I feel he will talk you out of it.

    I am concerned and puzzled by his behaviour.
    His actions do not support his words.
    Of course I just do not have sufficient knowledge about your relationship with him and his with you. But based solely on what you have shared here on this forum, I do fear that he may well be deceiving everyone, including himself.

    In one of your earlier posts you mentioned that 'His wife decided not to sign the divorce papers'
    Again, this puzzled me. Given that he'd been living with you for 8 years in Canada, his divorce petition should have been uncontested.
    What I mean is that after 5 years living apart the petitioner (your partner) issues the
    divorce petition (5 years separation) and the divorce papers do not need the agreement
    of the respondent.

    On his visits to UK from Canada did he live with his wife?
    Is he living a double life.

    Emma Julia, please start taking some independent actions. Your legal position all round is precarious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma Julia View Post
    I also doubt that I will be qualified for unmarried partner visa ( De Facto) because he is not divorce yet.
    he might not need to be divorced, as long as any previous marriage (or similar relationship) that either of you were in has permanently broken down;
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    Thank you Joe,
    We may have a chance if that's the case. I will look into it right away. I hope he will have the courage to help us even if his family will oppose to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    he might not need to be divorced, as long as any previous marriage (or similar relationship) that either of you were in has permanently broken down;
    Must admit Joe, I also considered that.
    Unless he is currently living with his wife, or has previously been living with his wife during the qualifying period.
    Or is not willing/able to live with Emma Julia
    If unmarried partner visa would be a possibility, could application be made in UK on a tourist visa?


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    i think emma will need entry clearence, maybe if their are compelling and compassionate reasons. its a long shot anyway
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    I'm so sorry to hear about this. Your fiance has behaved despicably. I'm afraid you have no legal rights in this country and will have to leave before your visa expires.

    If you are in financial difficulties, ask the local church and for help. There are many charitable organisations. Someone will help you. Or go to your fiance's church, speak to the vicar and say that you accept the situation, explain your circumstances and say that you need financial help. The vicar might bring pressure on your fiance to help you, or he might know of some other source of help.

    The wife didn't need to agree to a divorce. In the UK, you can get divorced if you have been separated for 5 years, without the consent of your spouse. If he's now living with his wife, though, that's no longer possible.

    Your fiance will surely be desperately unhappy with his wife and will soon realise that his life is with you and the children.


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    Hello Everyone,
    Thank you for your help. The Law Centre is helping me at the moment. The Citizen's advice bureau is trying their best to refer me to the right person. Another agency through the website that Joebloggs recommended had given me more than an hour of free advice. So far, they had been wonderful to me. There is no immediate result for the exact problem but I am hoping that I would get to the right people. I have been very busy talking to at least three solicitors a week or an agency. Please keep me in mind that perhaps you know someone that could help me. Once again, thank you everyone. I will keep you posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma Julia View Post
    I will keep you posted.
    Please do, Emma Julia ... the people here are always willing to provide a sympathetic "ear" ... and help others in any way(s) they can - whenever/wherever possible.


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    Thank you Arthur! and congratulations for 2 years anniversary! More power to you!


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    So sorry to read your story. This must strike a cord with many members of both sexes, about or have embarked on leaving the life they know behind to start a new and putting all your trust in one person then, for them to send you down the river without a paddle. Everybodies worse nightmare. This could happen to any of us, what a thought. Im puzzled to how you got a place at the Bristol hospital though, seeing how you only got a tourist visa. Keep the faith Emma These things happen for a reason. Good luck !


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    Gwapito,
    Thanks for the messsage. It was not hard to be accepted at Bristol hospital if indeed I chose to. I joined a clinical trial for cancer therefore as a patient under that category could go anywhere because they are funded through the trial. It is actually in their favor to accept me, so they could get more funding.


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    Hi Joeblogs, Wondering if you are around? wanting to ask you something!


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    For Gwapito again! I forgot to mention that only countries that joined the clinical trial for cancer. Not all countires.


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    A question to Terpe and Joeblogs,

    Do you think I could qualify in applying for RIGHT TO ABODE as I came from a country whose citizens are commonweath citizen or commonly known British subject ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma Julia View Post
    A question to Terpe and Joeblogs,

    Do you think I could qualify in applying for RIGHT TO ABODE as I came from a country whose citizens are commonweath citizen or commonly known British subject ?
    Nice idea Emma Julia
    Just being a citizen of a commonwealth country is not enough. There are some other specific requirements that only you can answer.

    For details on Right of Abode look here:-

    http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoap...12rightofabode

    Key extract is:-

    You will have the right of abode as a Commonwealth citizen if you have been a citizen of a Commonwealth country up to 1 January 1983 and, immediately before that date:

    you were a Commonwealth citizen with a parent who, at the time of your birth or legal adoption, was a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies and had their citizenship by being born in the United Kingdom, or
    you were a Commonwealth citizen and are, or were, the wife of a man with the right of abode in the United Kingdom.


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    Thank you Terpe,

    My parents became a canadian citizen prior to January 1, 1983.


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    yes i'm still here
    but i'm at work
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    Cute responsed Joeblogs!! Thank you kindly for your advice.


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    Joeblogs, As per your adviced and other members, I contacted CAB and I was pleased with their reception. they recommended three lawyers including the law centre. I also wen to iasuk website and I was impressed of their immediate responsed. I left a message for thm to call me at 11:00 am the next day and right on the dot the phone rang. They determined right away if I was eligible to speak to a solicitor. I was given an hour for free to relay my concerns and the conversation was almost two hours without hesitation. They had given me their atmost respect and kindness. Today I received at least 10 pages of information, phones numbers and locations of other solicitor in my area. They also sent me a contract to sign that they would represent me if things will get unpleasant between me and my partner. They had alotted £1,500 worth of legal advice and that includes all the paper works. They highly recommended to contact an immigration lawyer to help me. I went to few of them and they are charging arm and leg. For the meantime I am doing a lot of research on my own.

    If you look up, I asked you and Terpe in regards to RIGHT TO ABODE, as I came from a country with commonwealth citizen. Clearly Terpe, responded to that. I then answered him that my parents are Canadian citizens prior to January 1, 1983.

    Would you please tell me about Immigration act 1971? Thank you for your help.


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