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    Dedworth. I am not displaying my personal views but that of an experienced senior CID officer (albeit now some 20 years ago) regarding whether offences appeared to have been committed by the demonstration which started this thread. QUOTE "An insult to decency ........ Poppy-burning Muslim protesters mar Armistice Day commemorations as millions fall silent to remember war dead."



    When the Argentine unlawfully invaded the Falklands the British on the whole held anti Argentinean views. That was not surprising.

    When the UK with others illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, why should anyone be surprised that Muslims might think it was an action against the Muslim world ?

    Who is to blame for our boys being killed? The Government at the time of the illegal invasions. Had commonsense prevailed, and the British puppy had not allowed itself to lead by Bush, we would not be discussing this now.

    Also, as far as Afghanistan is concerned, we learnt nothing from history which displayed that subduing Afghanistan, which had defeated the British and later the Russians, was probably not achievable. This was especially so when we were supporting the USA who had been defeated in Vietnam after the French had suffered the same fate. Thus even ignoring the illegality it was senseless and stupid. That's why I am so angry that our boys are dying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    Dedworth. I am not displaying my personal views but that of an experienced senior CID officer (albeit now some 20 years ago) regarding whether offences appeared to have been committed by the demonstration which started this thread.

    However, when the Argentine unlawfully invaded the Falklands the British on the whole held anti Argentinean views. That was not surprising.

    When the UK with others illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, why should anyone be surprised that Muslims might think it was an action against the Muslim world ?
    I'm not debating whether or not the invasions of Iraq & Afghanistan are illegal or not NATO hasn't been hauled up in the Hague or by the UN yet, how about Kosovo and bombing Serbia what's the legalities there ? Anyway that is not the issue but you seem to be defending the actions and non arrest of the demonstrators by virtue of these 2 invasions. Is it acceptable for me to go and burn down a local corner shop because it's (Muslim) owner was convicted of selling alcohol to 13 year olds ?

    I posted this thread as yet another example of Muslim extremism in 2011 incidentally at a time when the inquest into the deaths of 52 innocents at the hands of Muslim terrorists is going on. My subsequent posts have questioned the states seeming unwillingness to arrest and prosecute these extremists.

    I personally believe we became involved in Iraq and Afghanistan for the right reasons, these nations have subsequently shown themselves to be anarchic toilet states and we would be better off pulling the troops out. The extremists would then no longer be able to use our soldiers presence as an excuse for their activities.

    The law is not being applied equally to all sections of the UK population - if I stood on a soap box in our local high street tomorrow and indulged in hate mongering shouts and waved offensive banners I would be arrested and charged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    I'm not debating whether or not the invasions of Iraq & Afghanistan are illegal or not NATO hasn't been hauled up in the Hague or by the UN yet, how about Kosovo and bombing Serbia what's the legalities there ? Anyway that is not the issue but you seem to be defending the actions and non arrest of the demonstrators by virtue of these 2 invasions. Is it acceptable for me to go and burn down a local corner shop because it's (Muslim) owner was convicted of selling alcohol to 13 year olds ?

    I posted this thread as yet another example of Muslim extremism in 2011 incidentally at a time when the inquest into the deaths of 52 innocents at the hands of Muslim terrorists is going on. My subsequent posts have questioned the states seeming unwillingness to arrest and prosecute these extremists.

    I personally believe we became involved in Iraq and Afghanistan for the right reasons, these nations have subsequently shown themselves to be anarchic toilet states and we would be better off pulling the troops out. The extremists would then no longer be able to use our soldiers presence as an excuse for their activities.

    The law is not being applied equally to all sections of the UK population - if I stood on a soap box in our local high street tomorrow and indulged in hate mongering shouts and waved offensive banners I would be arrested and charged.
    Isn't invading Iraq and Afghanistan extreme?
    How many civilians have been killed in Iraq?
    The "right reasons"


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Isn't invading Iraq and Afghanistan extreme?
    How many civilians have been killed in Iraq?
    The "right reasons"
    Thousands upon thousands of civilians have been killed in Iraq due to different Muslim sects and groupings blowing each other up plus a few al qaeda bombings. Not a month seems to go by without another 10 or so suicide bombings in Pakistan and I don't think they were on the invasion list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Thousands upon thousands of civilians have been killed in Iraq due to different Muslim sects and groupings blowing each other up plus a few al qaeda bombings. Not a month seems to go by without another 10 or so suicide bombings in Pakistan and I don't think they were on the invasion list.
    Yes you are correct, but many were killed by the Nato forces too.


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