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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    I'd start with Treason but more likely the charges laid after the Mohammed Cartoon Danish Embassy Demo would do for me - inciting racial hatred and soliciting murder - sentences of 4 - 6 years were given.

    After disrupting a troops homecoming parade 5 pieces of trash were convicted in Luton in January 2010 with using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.............. the handwringing Luton Magistrates gave them 2 year conditional discharges and awarded costs against them.
    Can I suggest you look up treason? As I understand the facts here this not treason.

    The placards in the photos, I do not believe amount to any offence, unless maybe behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. A very minor offence, and akin to the 'sledgehammer and the nut.'

    As I said I cannot think any substantive offence.

    It maybe that the demonstrators took legal advice to ensure they could not be prosecuted. The childhood rhyme 'sticks and stones' comes to mind. As suggest here, as UK has free speech people demonstrating that right, should be ignored if we do not agree with what they are saying. Or we could turn UK into a country where the police decide who can do what: If that ever happened, I would be even more glad I live in Spain and have recently taken up my right to Irish Nationality.

    In the other case you refer to. Those concerned did commit a criminal offence and were convicted and sentenced for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    Can I suggest you look up treason? As I understand the facts here this not treason.

    The placards in the photos, I do not believe amount to any offence, unless maybe behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. A very minor offence, and akin to the 'sledgehammer and the nut.'

    As I said I cannot think any substantive offence.

    It maybe that the demonstrators took legal advice to ensure they could not be prosecuted. The childhood rhyme 'sticks and stones' comes to mind. As suggest here, as UK has free speech people demonstrating that right, should be ignored if we do not agree with what they are saying. Or we could turn UK into a country where the police decide who can do what: If that ever happened, I would be even more glad I live in Spain and have recently taken up my right to Irish Nationality.

    In the other case you refer to. Those concerned did commit a criminal offence and were convicted and sentenced for it.
    Treason was tongue in cheek unfortunately. I suggest you watch the videos there is clear evidence of racial hatred and obvious intent to cause distress.

    Asad Ullah of Muslims Against Crusades said "I have no respect for the silence as it represents the murder of millions of Muslims. By burning the poppy we wanted to upset people and we wanted them to hurt"

    Muslims Against Crusaders organiser Abu Rayah, from east London, said: “British soldiers are mass murderers and your politicians are oppressors. By wearing poppies, you condone mass murderers. This protest was for thousands of Muslims killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Treason was tounge in cheek unfortunately. I suggest you watch the videos there is clear evidence of racial hatred and obvious intent to cause distress.

    Asad Ullah of Muslims Against Crusades said "I have no respect for the silence as it represents the murder of millions of Muslims. By burning the poppy we wanted to upset people and we wanted them to hurt"

    Muslims Against Crusaders organiser Abu Rayah, from east London, said: “British soldiers are mass murderers and your politicians are oppressors. By wearing poppies, you condone mass murderers. This protest was for thousands of Muslims killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
    Dedworth, Sorry I took your comment as a serious one.

    I think I have gone far enough with this. I don't want to go on and on following tangents.


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