An insult to decency

[Englishman2010]

For these soap box pretenders, read your history

I'm not disputing that the West has to share some of the blame for this extremism, US and UK foreign policy is wrong in my opinion. However, Islam can hardly claim it hasn't invaded other nations over the years. Originating in the Arabian peninsula it quickly spread thoughout North Africa, South Western Europe, Asia Minor, Central Asia, South Asia and the Far East. Much of this expansion was done by occupying armies and forcing people to convert or be killed. We can all pull articles from Wiki to prove our points. Muslims have slane as many people over the centuries as non muslims have, so please don't make them out to be the victim's here. If you want recent examples, look no further than Nigeria and The Sudan...and before you say the West is anti Muslim, think about Kosovo in 1998. Nato fought off the Orthodox Christian Sefbian Army and supported the Muslim Kosova's. Funny how no one ever mentions that when they complain about muslims being oppressed by the west
Like you I am an athiest, religion is the main cause of wars...or should I say, religious power crazy fantatics manipulating a religion is the main cause of war

[aposhark]

I'm not disputing that the West has to share some of the blame for this extremism, US and UK foreign policy is wrong in my opinion. However, Islam can hardly claim it hasn't invaded other nations over the years. Originating in the Arabian peninsula it quickly spread thoughout North Africa, South Western Europe, Asia Minor, Central Asia, South Asia and the Far East. Much of this expansion was done by occupying armies and forcing people to convert or be killed. We can all pull articles from Wiki to prove our points. Muslims have slane as many people over the centuries as non muslims have, so please don't make them out to be the victim's here. If you want recent examples, look no further than Nigeria and The Sudan...and before you say the West is anti Muslim, think about Kosovo in 1998. Nato fought off the Orthodox Christian Sefbian Army and supported the Muslim Kosova's. Funny how no one ever mentions that when they complain about muslims being oppressed by the west
Like you I am an athiest, religion is the main cause of wars...or should I say, religious power crazy fantatics manipulating a religion is the main cause of war

I agree................and, we do have some things in common

[Englishman2010]

I agree................and, we do have some things in common

I think everyone on here agrees to an extent Apo, and so do the majority of decent British people, the problem is this thread has become twisted and clouded and accusations of racism made. I don't think that is the case at all, most normal Brit's are quite happy to have a multitude of races and faiths here as long as they accept our way of life and play by our rules.
I condemn all forms of extremism, be it Islamic Fundamentalism, Christian Far Right or any other form of extreme political or religious belief. I don't claim the West is perfect, far from it, but it is my home and I don't want to see it degenerate any more than it has already. The biggest fear for most people is the lack of loyalty and patriotism shown by the extremists, God will always come before family, country or law.....and if the preacher tells a convert God wants you to wear a suicide belt and blow up a train full of innocent commuters they will do it. It isn't a question of IF there will be another attack in the UK, but WHEN?

[aposhark]

I think everyone on here agrees to an extent Apo, and so do the majority of decent British people, the problem is this thread has become twisted and clouded and accusations of racism made. I don't think that is the case at all, most normal Brit's are quite happy to have a multitude of races and faiths here as long as they accept our way of life and play by our rules.
I condemn all forms of extremism, be it Islamic Fundamentalism, Christian Far Right or any other form of extreme political or religious belief. I don't claim the West is perfect, far from it, but it is my home and I don't want to see it degenerate any more than it has already. The biggest fear for most people is the lack of loyalty and patriotism shown by the extremists, God will always come before family, country or law.....and if the preacher tells a convert God wants you to wear a suicide belt and blow up a train full of innocent commuters they will do it. It isn't a question of IF there will be another attack in the UK, but WHEN?

I have noticed that this thread and others are becoming saturated with some people's warped ideas that extremism is only from one particular group of people, when that group is mostly moderate.
They should really note that extremism comes in many disgusting manifestations.
I am glad the BNF is mostly hounded out of our lives when they try to spout off in public.
This is because we are mostly moderate in this multicultural country

[Dedworth]

I have noticed that this thread and others are becoming saturated with some people's warped ideas that extremism is only from one particular group of people, when that group is mostly moderate.
They should really note that extremism comes in many disgusting manifestations.
I am glad the BNF is mostly hounded out of our lives when they try to spout off in public.
This is because we are mostly moderate in this multicultural country

If I'm not mistaken the moderate perpetrators of 99.9% of horrendous terrorist attacks throughout the world in the last 10 years or so have been muslim

[Steve.r]

They should really note that extremism comes in many disgusting manifestations.

Like atheisum, in some people's minds.

I have my Poppy btw, and stood for 2 minutes silence in respect of our fallen heros.

[aposhark]

Like atheisum, in some people's minds.

I have my Poppy btw, and stood for 2 minutes silence in respect of our fallen heros.

633526520114663387-athism.jpg "Because babies are tasty" .......Watch out we're everywhere in the UK

There will be less fallen heroes if we pull out of Afghanistan

[joebloggs]

633526520114663387-athism.jpg "Because babies are tasty" .......Watch out we're everywhere in the UK
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