Same in much of west London most people enjoy the others celebrations when Riots happened elsewhere in the country in the early noughties no one even thought of rioting..Originally Posted by Englishman2010
Many Muslims who wish to simply get on and respect all like the majority of Brits try to ignore the extremists whether they are BNP or one of the Extreme Muslim groups. Sometimes i guess its a balance between not feeding them with oxygen of publicity and condemning them.
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
You are correct Joe.did they see themselves as British thou ?
as I've posted a few times on here, i use to work with 2 Libyan brothers who's mother was British, even thou both were born in Libya and both had British passports, but they didn't see themselves as British in anyway, they use to laugh and joke about British soldiers been killed because they killed their 'Muslim brothers'
The muslim faith doesn't seem to exist within country boundaries as we have seen many times.
This state of affairs (hate towards the west) could be eased.
IMO, this is why the west is getting the backlash; what happens in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel or wherever will spread out to places like Britain, the USA or Spain for example.
Nothing is happening on a Global level to help Muslims, which is why British muslims are reacting violently.
All violence is reprehensible and it is getting worse.
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Think of the Palestinians who have been killed by the thousands, think of the recent invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
It doesn't really matter which members of this forum feel outraged, their grievances are miniscule compared to the endless horrors inflicted on the Muslims around the world.
For these soap box pretenders, read your history
Yes you are correct, but many were killed by the Nato forces too.
yes your right,
I'm sure many Brits want a free Palestine, and its the politicians who dragged this on and on and some extremist use this as an excuse to kill.
what shocked my thou in one of their suicide notes/videos was how he loved his wife and kids but god came first
Very true, except that you don't mention the white extremists' racist ideology also.
The politicians around the world need to pull their fingers out before it gets much worse
I'm not disputing that the West has to share some of the blame for this extremism, US and UK foreign policy is wrong in my opinion. However, Islam can hardly claim it hasn't invaded other nations over the years. Originating in the Arabian peninsula it quickly spread thoughout North Africa, South Western Europe, Asia Minor, Central Asia, South Asia and the Far East. Much of this expansion was done by occupying armies and forcing people to convert or be killed. We can all pull articles from Wiki to prove our points. Muslims have slane as many people over the centuries as non muslims have, so please don't make them out to be the victim's here. If you want recent examples, look no further than Nigeria and The Sudan...and before you say the West is anti Muslim, think about Kosovo in 1998. Nato fought off the Orthodox Christian Sefbian Army and supported the Muslim Kosova's. Funny how no one ever mentions that when they complain about muslims being oppressed by the westFor these soap box pretenders, read your history
Like you I am an athiest, religion is the main cause of wars...or should I say, religious power crazy fantatics manipulating a religion is the main cause of war
Yep, this is very shocking for us non-muslims to understandyes your right,
I'm sure many Brits want a free Palestine, and its the politicians who dragged this on and on and some extremist use this as an excuse to kill.
what shocked my thou in one of their suicide notes/videos was how he loved his wife and kids but god came first
Many muslims around the world are also very shocked at the West's ways.
I agree................and, we do have some things in commonI'm not disputing that the West has to share some of the blame for this extremism, US and UK foreign policy is wrong in my opinion. However, Islam can hardly claim it hasn't invaded other nations over the years. Originating in the Arabian peninsula it quickly spread thoughout North Africa, South Western Europe, Asia Minor, Central Asia, South Asia and the Far East. Much of this expansion was done by occupying armies and forcing people to convert or be killed. We can all pull articles from Wiki to prove our points. Muslims have slane as many people over the centuries as non muslims have, so please don't make them out to be the victim's here. If you want recent examples, look no further than Nigeria and The Sudan...and before you say the West is anti Muslim, think about Kosovo in 1998. Nato fought off the Orthodox Christian Sefbian Army and supported the Muslim Kosova's. Funny how no one ever mentions that when they complain about muslims being oppressed by the west
Like you I am an athiest, religion is the main cause of wars...or should I say, religious power crazy fantatics manipulating a religion is the main cause of war
I think everyone on here agrees to an extent Apo, and so do the majority of decent British people, the problem is this thread has become twisted and clouded and accusations of racism made. I don't think that is the case at all, most normal Brit's are quite happy to have a multitude of races and faiths here as long as they accept our way of life and play by our rules.I agree................and, we do have some things in common
I condemn all forms of extremism, be it Islamic Fundamentalism, Christian Far Right or any other form of extreme political or religious belief. I don't claim the West is perfect, far from it, but it is my home and I don't want to see it degenerate any more than it has already. The biggest fear for most people is the lack of loyalty and patriotism shown by the extremists, God will always come before family, country or law.....and if the preacher tells a convert God wants you to wear a suicide belt and blow up a train full of innocent commuters they will do it. It isn't a question of IF there will be another attack in the UK, but WHEN?
I have noticed that this thread and others are becoming saturated with some people's warped ideas that extremism is only from one particular group of people, when that group is mostly moderate.
They should really note that extremism comes in many disgusting manifestations.
I am glad the BNF is mostly hounded out of our lives when they try to spout off in public.
This is because we are mostly moderate in this multicultural country
I agree, this is the first thing I said when I saw the reports, just don't give them the coverage.
Its a bit like when the first reports of ram raids came out... then amazingly there were lots more ? ?
Yes, I can spell, Just can't tpye
Bad news, gossip, rumour and scandals sell newspapers and keeps people tuned into the TV News
British my **** only when it suits them,they hated everything about us and all they wanted to do was to purposely kill innocent civilians.Arthur, as you will be aware the 7/7 bombers were all British and did not "infiltrate our (for the most part) civilised shores"
You live in a world of denial and naivety I'm afraid.
If I'm not mistaken the moderate perpetrators of 99.9% of horrendous terrorist attacks throughout the world in the last 10 years or so have been muslimI have noticed that this thread and others are becoming saturated with some people's warped ideas that extremism is only from one particular group of people, when that group is mostly moderate.
They should really note that extremism comes in many disgusting manifestations.
I am glad the BNF is mostly hounded out of our lives when they try to spout off in public.
This is because we are mostly moderate in this multicultural country
Helllllllooooooo.....?
Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine - heard of them?
What news do you watch, what radio stations do you listen to or read about?
why are you letting this thread annoy you so much
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
Well I'm British through and through and proud of it,I will be tending the parade in town tomorrow and paying my respects.
Think your true colours have been shown and im guessing you don't have a poppy
Luckily most people on this thread have agreed with most of my posts as would the general public of the uk.
You go your way,i will go mine
Because I deplore what those Islamic *******s did the other day and will have a go at anyone who defends themwhy are you letting this thread annoy you so much
Good on you !
I'll second that Graham - well done LesGood on you !
Like atheisum, in some people's minds.
I have my Poppy btw, and stood for 2 minutes silence in respect of our fallen heros.
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
I'm watching the Royal British Legion Festival of Remembrance on BBC1 - what's on Al Jazeera ? "Episode 15 of An Introduction to Suicide Bombing" or suchlikeHelllllllooooooo.....?
Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine - heard of them?
What news do you watch, what radio stations do you listen to or read about?
Followers of Islam don't disrespect our dead soldiers as I don't laugh at your innocent civilians killed
633526520114663387-athism.jpg "Because babies are tasty"Like atheisum, in some people's minds.
I have my Poppy btw, and stood for 2 minutes silence in respect of our fallen heros.
There will be less fallen heroes if we pull out of Afghanistan
don't forget the veggy atheist to633526520114663387-athism.jpg "Because babies are tasty"
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Noooooo, those make big utotsdon't forget the veggy atheist to
Burning poppies is not a nice thing to do and they should be reprimanded, but then bombing the poop out of a country because you pretend they have got wmd is ok ?
you wouldn't find them burning poppies in Afghanistan.... as it is their main source of income.
Yes, I can spell, Just can't tpye
As a point of fact no poppies got burnt
Absit invidia
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You're right Notavirusalso
The invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was, and still is, "An insult to decency"
For what?
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