being a fat person i can say it is an illness like any other!! we treat alcoholics , force feed / treat anorexic's / help druggies! what do we do for us fatties ? tell to exercise and diet! bloody cheers, i have played rugby until 30 and run and gym work and always been a lump, now in later life i am just fat, yet i walked 5 hours over the mountains this weekend and walk max half hour + every day? even tho i just had major surgery on one achillies and heel and need the other one done.oh and ride my bike a lot. i try to eat sensibly and good food, i cook so not crap pre packed stuff! and still fat !!!! so please not all fat people can be cured by eating right and exercise. my mate is 7 stone wet and hates it and has eaten like a pig the 20 years ive known him?? he cant put it on, so it must be more than food and exercise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for the coffee if its a placebo who cares anything that helps YOU cant be fake can it?????.
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