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    Whatever you end up doing, best wishes.
    Personally I wouldn't get involved with religion and probably wouldn't want to be involved with anyone who was too religious either, but thats just me - each to their own

    As the saying goes, there's plenty more fish in the sea


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    Spoke with her, she to afraid of family,
    I'll tell her to night that i want to just be friend's and that i hope she find's someone with the same high beliefs she has.

    If she does not want to talk i'll wish her the best in life and for future.

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    That's exactly it Support,
    Hmmm....she's afraid of her family huh?? You don't what that as the family will be controlling the relationship.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindanao[COLOR="blue"
    INC,you have to regularly put your tithe (10% of your income to the church [/COLOR]they got their attendance sheets and you're name be checked if you attend the service. Thursdays and Sundays are the biblical services.
    My Friends who are in solidarity with the INC, and they are very religious/pious in praying So if you want to be convert to them, you'll have to attend a number of religious services before they will confer you and allows you to get married to an INC. Don't miss the service
    That's not true...Im a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo but we never do that...We give the amount voluntarily but not 10% compulsory....


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    As a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo, we are not allowed to get married to those who are not a member of INC..If we do we get expelled from INC....People who want to be a member of INC is need to undergo a doctrinations...


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    That's not true...Im a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo but we never do that...We give the amount voluntarily but not 10% compulsory....
    that's what i learned from my INC friend Jane, Thanks for enlightening.


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    Someone's on the fiddle!


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    Sound like a bunch of nut cases to me.. Run forest...RUN!!


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    Ever noticed how the INC churches are the smartest buildings in town....surrounded by poverty ?


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    I haven't but I can imagine. Not right at all!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... having seen the fancy edifices the 'Iglesia ni Cristo' religion owns in Mindanao alone ... it seems its followers are "not short of a bob or two"!!
    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Ever noticed how the INC churches are the smartest buildings in town....surrounded by poverty ?
    That's one of the main points I was making too, Graham ... as you can see!


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    Ever noticed how the INC churches are the smartest buildings in town
    I have just been to the KFC opposite their european HQ(Too dark to take a pic)that building isnt cheap to rent,its huge



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    That's one of the main points I was making too, Graham ...
    ... for instance, many - if not most - churches in the UK are struggling to make ends meet financially, and I know for a fact that the Presbyterian Church of Scotland is no exception - having witnessed an almost continual rise in the number of buildings being closed, sold off and/or demolished (due to inadequate funding) throughout the thirty-five years I've been an office-bearer.


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    Well, I've said what i needed to say and that's that.

    All that is or was expected of me was to go to church. And as i said on here i would go just to support her.

    But i would always have niggling thoughts about family having control.

    I repect that they love there family and try to help them.
    I'm just not used to that as it's not something i have myself...

    ingat all,
    adam


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    We know we have alot of beautiful church not only in the philippines but all over the world..And please guys dont think that we are forced to give 10% of our income all we give is voluntarily from our heart.....And we do believed its all blessings from God .We just respect what others beliefs/religion coz each one of us are different....I respect all of your here I hope you do the same....


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    Jane,

    I mean no disrespect towards your religion or your churches.

    I really like this lass but.
    I'm not religious i mean yes i have a belief.
    and i was baptised, An i'm christian.
    But every country is different and everyone and every tradition moves on.

    I hope you dont take offence to the above as it's just my point of view and we all have 1.

    Ingat


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Ever noticed how the INC churches are the smartest buildings in town....surrounded by poverty ?
    And the Catholic churches..The ones with the most clients are left crumbling!!
    I wonder if its because they give all their donations to the poorest members of their flock and forego church refurbishment?


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    Well the Pope and his mates at the Vatican don't seem to have the backsides out of their trousers ...and all those graven images being worshipped.

    Oops, mustn't get involved with religion....easiest way to get myself banned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Oops, mustn't get involved with religion....easiest way to get myself banned.
    or football



    after 10yrs, the only time religion was a problem with me and the misses, was when it came to baptizing little Joe, basically he had to be if he was to attend the same school as his sister, I wanted him to be kept free from religion until he was old enough to make his own decision.
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    being a prtestant from norhtern ireland and having lived here my whole life i found it strange to find myself courting a different religion never mind different cultured lady,she is as you might of guessed catholic and has a strong beleif,i spent 15 months there with her and guess what i went to mass with her every sunday so from my background of religious polotics it seemed impossible for this work,ive learnt a lot love conquers the divides if you let it we are happy in our different religous beleifs but we both respect the way we were raised.YES it can work out fine it did for me.
    GOODLUCK
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    Fortunately the ex (Catholic) wasn't religious, so our boy wasn't baptised and didn't receive any brainwashing. I was brought up a Methodist, and attended church until 16.

    I do TRY not to influence any spiritual beliefs he may have, and to teach him good moral values.

    Seeing as he was chosen at school to be a 'moderator' and later a Prefect, I reckon he's turning out fine...not to mention the 14 GCSEs, including Religious Education.

    Poor old RE teacher apparently did have her hands full with him though. Like father like son.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Fortunately the ex (Catholic) wasn't religious, so our boy wasn't baptised and didn't receive any brainwashing. I was brought up a Methodist, and attended church until 16.

    I do TRY not to influence any spiritual beliefs he may have, and to teach him good moral values.

    Seeing as he was chosen at school to be a 'moderator' and later a Prefect, I reckon he's turning out fine...not to mention the 14 GCSEs, including Religious Education.

    Poor old RE teacher apparently did have her hands full with him though. Like father like son.
    what me off most was when our 7yr old girl had to go to confession what the can a 7yr old girl have to confess about

    your lucky graham, or maybe not, i went to a C & E school, dad was catholic and mom a jehovah wittness, and I as you can tell I am free from them all

    morals, honestly etc have little to do with religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayzel View Post
    being a prtestant from norhtern ireland and having lived here my whole life i found it strange to find myself courting a different religion never mind different cultured lady,she is as you might of guessed catholic and has a strong beleif,i spent 15 months there with her and guess what i went to mass with her every sunday so from my background of religious polotics it seemed impossible for this work,ive learnt a lot love conquers the divides if you let it we are happy in our different religous beleifs but we both respect the way we were raised.YES it can work out fine it did for me.
    GOODLUCK
    jay an zel
    Nice post


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    Quote Originally Posted by jayzel View Post
    ive learnt a lot love conquers the divides if you let it we are happy in our different religous beleifs but we both respect the way we were raised.YES it can work out fine it did for me.
    GOODLUCK
    jay an zel
    Well said, Jay & Zel ... ! Indeed, love can - and does - conquer religious divides; I am Protestant and my wife, Catholic ... but we respect each other's faith, and are both Christians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Fortunately the ex (Catholic) wasn't religious, so our boy wasn't baptised and didn't receive any brainwashing. I was brought up a Methodist, and attended church until 16.

    I do TRY not to influence any spiritual beliefs he may have, and to teach him good moral values.

    Seeing as he was chosen at school to be a 'moderator' and later a Prefect, I reckon he's turning out fine...not to mention the 14 GCSEs, including Religious Education.

    Poor old RE teacher apparently did have her hands full with him though. Like father like son.
    And all credit to you, Graham! But, equally, maybe the GCSE he gained in Religious Education is a further token of your moral values ... and the fact that his RE teacher had her hands full with him, is [perhaps] an early indication that his knowledge of the subject surpassed hers to the extent that he might even aspire to becoming a Mehodist Minister!


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    His great grandfather WAS a Methodist Minister (married to an Irish Presbyterian).

    Our family was very active in church circles, and in fact to this day both of my sisters are Sunday School teachers.

    I was fascinated by all things scientific as a child, and a big fan of Darwin, so the man in the sky just had to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post

    I was fascinated by all things scientific as a child, and a big fan of Darwin, so the man in the sky just had to go.
    Who "Dar(es) wins", eh? ... but aren't some Darwinian theories a bit "above our heads" also?


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    I did take the advice from you all.

    AND I'M STAYING AWAY FROM RELIGION

    I will still go to church on a sunday if i meet a nice girl and that is her wish in the future of course. Supporting as every guy should be of partner.

    So thanks again for advice and sorry for stepping on anyone's toes.

    regards
    adam


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    Very wise sir.

    Good luck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    I did take the advice from you all.

    AND I'M STAYING AWAY FROM RELIGION

    I will still go to church on a sunday if i meet a nice girl and that is her wish in the future of course. Supporting as every guy should be of partner.

    So thanks again for advice and sorry for stepping on anyone's toes.

    regards
    adam
    So, if the husband is an Atheist, shouldn't the wife support him
    More importantly, if romance blossoms and marriage and emigration to the UK happens, wouldn't it be important to let the lady know that most people in the UK are not concerned with religion any more.
    She would not be shocked when she arrived.


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    You made the right decision I think for the two of you

    In the Wife's family and extended household there are Catholics and Born again (protestant) and one of the Maids family is INC.

    I would advise anyone visiting or simply chatting at a deep personal level with people from the Philippines to look into the various religions available there. Simply mentioning you don't believe in it think its a load of tosh will cause raised high brows and possibly a not to warm a response

    Jokes/views about the Pope or leaders of the INC, Abortion and other viewpoints which provoke intense reactions from both believers and non believers. Should be avoided at all costs. Law and public opinion is very much influenced by the Church in the wrong situation simply making a remark could end up with you in serious do do..

    While there are many Phills who will make a big point of saying their religious. Dont forget the vast majority of Phills will besemi regular Church goers. Even with the Wifes very liberal, westernised Friends, God and Jesus will be mentioned with sincerity and much love.
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