im sure some people are just born victims. They just attract the wrong ones. We all attract certain types and in turn go for certain types, whether its right or wrong. So lets not keep blaming the women here. There is choice, choice not to pick the wrong one. Dont just listen to your heart, listen to your head and sometimes your mother! Forget the last option, she wouldn't have you married at all. In reply to Born a Birth about the moody thing. If someone is being silent towards me that, to me is being moody or having a mood on. You can call it what you like, its all the same to me. Good post by the way by Pacific electric. I totally agree