Im sure no one sets out to treat there women mean if its not in there nature, its not possible, surely. All I know is that we attract certain types, we just hope its the right one who gets to you first and not and not one of those who manipulate. What Fred said about his mate from Manchester Im sure there is some truth in it, although I also keep my wife well clothed as well ! Ha ha ha The wife calls it 'watered' sounds much better to the ear ha ha ha