you mean terpe we shouldnt apply for the eea family permit yet. do you think it is a gray area for us now :-s and for the case i tried to look at ECCCAT as what it said to refer to but i cant find it.I really wanted to know what is the case that is in it. I tried calling the embassy the day like just to ask but there was no answer.Please if you or joe know the case about this can you pleasepaste link here or even the case filed like the summary or something.it will be a very big help for us.thank you so much. my husband and i have waited a few good years like since 2008 and now it looks like we are losing our hope:(...any help would be highly appreciated.thank you so much again terpe,joe,and keithangel