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    English Language Test in Cebu?

    Any suggestions on where to take the A1 English Language Test in Cebu?

    My fiancee has to take the test, despite a Bachelors Degree in Primary Education.

    I am sure she could pass a higher level test, so any suggestions on higher level tests which would be recognised in the UK for employment?


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    IELTS - but i'm not 100% sure it is acceptable, i would have thought so, as it's probably the most recoognised and useful of all the english tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    IELTS - but i'm not 100% sure it is acceptable, i would have thought so, as it's probably the most recoognised and useful of all the english tests.
    IELTS is acceptable and, depending on how well you do in the test, you can get higher grades too. So, it does seem a good test.


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    Whats your timescale i literaly just got back from Cebu City to my little provicial town but i will make enquireys soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Whats your timescale i literaly just got back from Cebu City to my little provicial town but i will make enquireys soon
    Quite soon, as my fiancee expects her annulment by March 1st and we are both keen she gets to UK ASAP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakfast View Post
    Quite soon, as my fiancee expects her annulment by March 1st and we are both keen she gets to UK ASAP.
    Why dont you drop an email to Moya the brit consul in Cebu
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    IELTS would be more useful than the other tests, my wife had to take the Academic version of IELTS.
    its a day long test, but widely recognised.
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    Hi Breakfast,
    I know a testing center in cebu accredited by the british embassy to that ESOL test. If you have facebook account add me up and i can give u the complete info..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikky View Post
    Hi Breakfast,
    I know a testing center in cebu accredited by the british embassy to that ESOL test. If you have facebook account add me up and i can give u the complete info..
    Why not add your information here on the forum. It may well help others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikky View Post
    Hi Breakfast,
    I know a testing center in cebu accredited by the british embassy to that ESOL test. If you have facebook account add me up and i can give u the complete info..
    Your Facebook link does not work, unfortunately. Can you provide the information on here, or is that not allowed?


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    Hi Breakfast,
    Im not sure about it but this is my facebook thelifejourney2008@yahoo.co.uk.. hope to chat to u soon...


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    Always best to go to the source as I suggested e mail Moya Jackson this is a new requirement and not all Philipine business operate in a totaly ethical way
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    I have emailed Moya will update what she says
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    I have emailed Moya will update what she says
    I have already heard back from her. She knows nothing of A1 tests as the Consulate has no involvement in visa matters.


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    Brit embassy then i guess
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    Hello Breakfast,

    Take a look at this link:
    http://www.vfs-uk-ph.com/images/2010...A1_Testing.pdf
    Its the list of test providers that are assessed as meeting the UK Border Agency’s requirements for testing English at A1 level in the Philippines.

    I hope this will help.


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    HI josieyam,

    Did you undergo for a review? or self review? Goodluck and your informations will be a big help for those applicants near Cebu just like me. I might consider this in my future application.

    febmary


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josieyam65 View Post
    Hello Breakfast,

    Take a look at this link:
    http://www.vfs-uk-ph.com/images/2010...A1_Testing.pdf
    Its the list of test providers that are assessed as meeting the UK Border Agency’s requirements for testing English at A1 level in the Philippines.

    I hope this will help.
    That pdf shows "theodalite " for Cebu and there has already been some contraversy on another thread over that company I have written to the Brit Embassy will await there list
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    Hello febmary,
    Thank you.
    And i'm only doing the practice tests in the internet.
    Are you going to Cebu? or Manila for the test?


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    @keithAngel: Can you tell me what are the controversies about the Theodolite?

    Sir, can you go to this VFS Global link:
    http://www.vfs-uk-ph.com/news.aspx
    then click the "here" in the 22 November news.

    Im just wondering, why did they include Theodolite on their list on the VFS Global site if they're not one of the approved test providers?
    I'm confuse now.


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    HI JOsieyam,
    Il prefer Cebu is there is a center to get the test. When are u going to take the test. Do you have any link for any reviews in the internet? Thanks....

    Ann


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    Can someone help with the threadlink Im refering to it may be fine I would want the link myself from the embassy not a third party
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    The thread showing how Theodolite make misleading approval/accreditation claims and how they've recently transferred their teaching expertise from Energy Advising to English Language is here

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....ht=#post269591


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    A List of English Language Schools in Cebu

    Here is a list of English Language schools in Cebu. I am not sure which ones offer the A1 test:

    ALTA Language Academy www.altacebu.com
    American International Training Institute www.aiticebu.com
    Asia Pacific College www.apc.edu.ph
    CDU ESL Center www.cduesl.com
    CIA (Cebu International Academy) www.cebucia.com
    Cebu International School www.cis.edu.ph
    Cebu Languages www.cebulanguages.com
    Centre for International Education www.cie.edu
    Cleverlearn English Language Institute www.cleverlearncebu.com
    Harvest Christian School International www.hcsinternational.org
    Southeast Asia English Experience Institute www.southeastasiaenglish.com
    Theodolite Training www.theodolite-training.com
    Toouchasis Contact Solutions www.touchasia.com

    The Centre for International Education tell me they have offered the A1 test in the past and may do so again by April, 2011

    Theodolite Training do offer the A1 test but there have been questions raised about its integrity.

    Another alternative is to try the British Council who do have test centre in Cebu, but they seem unable to say which of their tests is accepted by the UK Border Agency for the A1 test.


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    Energy Advising ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    The thread showing how Theodolite make misleading approval/accreditation claims and how they've recently transferred their teaching expertise from Energy Advising to English Language is here

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....ht=#post269591
    I think I ought to clear up a couple of misconceptions that seem to be flying around this forum.

    The reason I was involved with Energy Saving courses in the UK is because the college I was working for as a trainer/assessor went into liquidation, as did a number of similar institutions around the same time.

    I, as did my colleagues, lost a great deal of money from unpaid salaries, etc., and anyone who has ever been caught up in a situation like this knows how painfull this all is, especially at my age.

    The collapse of the college left hundreds of students completely stranded having paid a lot of money for courses, with little or no hope of ever achieving their initial aims.

    I was approached by many of these students to see if I could help them complete the courses and I agreed. This was at a very minimal cost to them, generally covering the ABBE registration and examination fees. PPC a registered ABBE assessment centre with whom I had worked with prior to the collapse agreed that I could process these students through their centre, which I did.

    Do I regret ever agreeing to helping these guys, absolutely not, and if anyone, as on this forum, think I should not have, then you need to speak to the guys who are now working as Assessors in the UK as they had originally intended.

    As far as the testing centre here in Cebu is concerned, we are a registered training centre for EDI and offer the ELSA English test which is approved by the UK Border Agency.

    This is not a 'get rich quick scheme' as has been implied by people who have obviously no idea what it costs to set up a centre with computers, internet, etc., . For each test we offer we have to pay a large percentage to EDI for the administration and recording of each test, which leaves us very little to cover the enormous overheads required..

    I have spent a great deal of my life within education and I get great pleasure out of helping people achieve their goals. I am sorry if this offends people on this forum.

    There were some inconsistancies on my websites but these were completely unintentional and have been corrected.

    The 'questions' over my centre name is due to the fact that my website in the UK is 'theodolite.net', and I have used this for many years as an important part of the online courses that I use to run. Setting up the centre here I was not permitted to use the same name as apparently there are many companies here using the name 'theodolite', and 'training'. The final name 'Theodolite Training Group UK Incorporated is the closest that I could have.

    As mentioned elsewhere on this forum, I am a registered learning provider in the UK and as I continue to help the remaining few candidates from the collapsed college I did not feel that it was incorrect or misleading to mention this on our sites. I have since removed the statement.

    Since starting our centre here in Cebu on December 27th, we have had almost 20 visa applicants successfully pass their A1 test, and have had their applications approved. Some of these sat their test with us on Saturday or Sunday, and occasionally late in to the night.

    I would just close in saying that, as a registered EDI Training centre in Cebu City, we were asked if we would be prepared to offer the A1 test to UK visa applicants, and this was not our initial intention.

    If any of you would like to visit our centre then you will be made very welcome.

    Peter


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    Quote Originally Posted by posthome View Post
    Since starting our centre here in Cebu on December 27th...
    As posthome only started his centre on December 27, 2010 it is quite surprising to find that the "College Flyer' already has seven testimonials from satisfied students of Theodolite Training Group in the Philippines...

    http://www.theodolite-training.com/school.pdf


    But are these testimonials really for Theodolite Training Group in the Philippines? Well, we also see the same testimonials on another website run by posthome, that presumbably pre-date his 'move' to the Philippines...

    http://home-energy-advisor.org.uk/say.html


    But can we prove these 'testimonials' pre-date the opening of Theodolite Training Group's centre in the Philippines? Yes we can! Here is the proof from the Google Cache of Home Energy Advisor website dated 27 November 2010...

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...w.google.co.uk


    So, posthome opened his centre in Cebu on 27 December, 2010 but the seven testimonials for the training supposedly offered at that centre were published on or before 27 November, 2010. How can that be?


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    Quote Originally Posted by posthome View Post
    The 'questions' over my centre name is due to the fact that my website in the UK is 'theodolite.net', and I have used this for many years as an important part of the online courses that I use to run. Setting up the centre here I was not permitted to use the same name as apparently there are many companies here using the name 'theodolite', and 'training'. The final name 'Theodolite Training Group UK Incorporated is the closest that I could have.
    Theodolite is not a very common word! So, just how popular is that word for companies based in the Philippines? Any Philippines company has to be registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the SEC have a website which allows anyone to check for the existence of ANY word in any of the companies based in the Philippines. You can do so here...

    1. http://www.sec.gov.ph/

    2. Click on Search Reserved/Registered Companies

    3. Enter the single word Theodolite into the search box

    4. Click on Show companies that contain the given words

    5. Click Search


    Hey presto, there is just ONE company listed in the Philippines which contains the word Theodolite in its name:

    THEODOLITE CONSTRUCTION AND SUPPLY


    In other words, there are NO companies in the Philippines showing on the publically-available SEC register that contain the words Theodolite and Training - not even Theodolite Training Group UK Inc!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by posthome View Post
    I think I ought to clear up a couple of misconceptions that seem to be flying around this forum.

    The reason I was involved with Energy Saving courses in the UK is because the college I was working for as a trainer/assessor went into liquidation, as did a number of similar institutions around the same time.

    I, as did my colleagues, lost a great deal of money from unpaid salaries, etc., and anyone who has ever been caught up in a situation like this knows how painfull this all is, especially at my age.
    yes i've been caught up in situations like that a few times, you lost a 'great deal' of money ? why did you work for months without being paid ??

    If your employer is legally insolvent then you would have been able to make a claim for your lost wages, redundancy pay and other payments relating to your work. so i dont see how you could have 'lost a great deal of money' or claimed from The Insolvency Service's Redundancy Payments Offices
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Further Proof that Theodolite Training Group UK Inc is not a Philippines Company!!

    In order to show that Theodolite Training Group Incorporated is NOT a registered Philippines company I have started the RESERVE COMPANY NAME procedure on the SEC website...

    http://iregister.sec.gov.ph/MainServlet

    You have to go through a few steps before finally reaching here...

    My List of Companies > Verify and Reserve Company Name > Update User Profile > Sign Out

    Step 4 | Verify Company Name
    Click Continue to accept proposed name and proceed to Review your Profile. Click Back to discard current proposed company name and verify another.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    - Checking your proposed name against:
    >> Offensive words ... PASSED
    >> Internationally known foreign corporations ... PASSED
    >> Registered names ... PASSED
    >> Reserved names ... PASSED
    >> Company-owned words ... PASSED
    >> Restricted words in accordance to existing laws ... PASSED


    - Proposed Company Name is Available!

    Proposed Company Name: THEODOLITE TRAINING GROUP UK INCORPORATED


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Can anyone offer any explanation why I can reserve a company name that posthome claims is his?


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    Who is coramia7?

    In an earlier post post on this thread:

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....479#post270479

    I showed that testimonials for Theodolite Group UK, in Cebu (by supposed satisfied students) were written at least one month before the centre was opened on 27 December, 2010.


    But I have found a testimonial supposedly written by a Theodolite Training Group student coramia7 some months earlier; 2nd August, 2010 to be precise: Look near the bottom of the page here...

    http://www.qype.co.uk/place/1365074-...-Training-Cebu


    So, just who is this lone student that posted this rave review almost 5 months before Theodolite Training UK opened their doors to students? It is known that posthome's wife is called Cora, so could coramia7 be posthome's wife?

    Have a look at this website...

    http://www.istorya.net/forums/househ...-it-out-7.html

    and find the post which reads...

    Can you send me the pics to coramia7@yahoo.com


    Read the username for the person who posted that. It is Theodolite. What a coincidence!


    So, let's look at an earlier post (3 April, 2010) by Theodolite on the same forum...

    http://www.istorya.net/forums/career...sh-online.html


    It seems that Theodolite joined the forum in April 2010 specifically to promote Theodolite Training who only opened their centre over 8 months later! Who would do that other than the people involved in setting up Theodolite Training Group - that is Peter and Cora Thwaites.

    Theodolite has already associated themselves with the name coramia7, so I suggest, in all probability, that Cora Thwaites, is coramia7 (the student in August 2010) and Theodolite (the promoter of Theodolite Training Group in April 2010)


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