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    Iglesia ni Cristo, Religion... Advice

    Hi, All

    I've been reading back post's with regards INC or INK.

    Been speaking to a lass which i quite like and everything going ok until this brought up about her religion. Now i'm not one for religion,

    I had enough of it getting forced on me when kid!!!

    I know that phil is religious place and i respect there beliefs.

    Any feed back folks???

    Kind regards
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    Each to their own when it comes to religion, I'm like most people and only ever go to church for weddings and funerals. Does your g/f mind if you aren't particularly religious? Do you mind if she is religious? I guess you need to talk about it and find out what each other wants and if you are happy to agree on a difference of opinion


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    Dont have any religion myself,and the only one in Pinas that interested me was animism,but the european headquarters for Iglesia Ni Cristo is 10 minutes away,whenever I am over there on a sunday the area is awash with Pinays,herds of them (or is that flocks?Whats a collective of pinays?A tsismis?).



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    erm.. just wondering..as what i know, INC has a rule (?) that the members should marry someone with the same religion..if not, the one who's not INC should convert..i'm not sure if this is applicable to you guys..


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    I think if your with someone who is deeply religious and you're not, it'll probably cause problems.

    If she's just mildly religious you'll more likely to get on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    Hi, All

    I've been reading back post's with regards INC or INK.

    Been speaking to a lass which i quite like and everything going ok until this brought up about her religion. Now i'm not one for religion,

    I had enough of it getting forced on me when kid!!!

    I know that phil is religious place and i respect there beliefs.

    Any feed back folks???

    Kind regards
    adz
    I think it is best to tell her what your beliefs are as soon as possible.
    If you hide your beliefs they will only come out later and the consequences could be dire.
    If you are willing to accept that she is religious, she should accept that you are not that bothered.
    It has been well documented on this forum that religion (amongst other things) can cause big problems if one partner does not accept the other's position.
    Tell her what you feel and be strong about this.
    Be truthful from the start


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    Hi, All apparently i need to convert to this church/religion/

    Now i've just told her truthfully that i'm not religious and that i would possibly convert.

    I have told her that i would go to church with her and take part but im only there to support her!!!

    I've also spoken to her about her family and what they would expect/ Support wise/ and She says she will put money back to them from her own pocket when she gets job over here.


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    Apparently both people need to be same religion for family blessing...

    And to be honest i really dont mind going to church as it's something she feels strongly about and well whats the point of trying to build future with someone if your not going to support there beliefs and values...

    She seems happy that i will go to church with her and i'm happy about this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    Hi, All apparently i need to convert to this church/religion/

    Now i've just told her truthfully that i'm not religious and that i would possibly convert.

    I have told her that i would go to church with her and take part but im only there to support her!!!

    I've also spoken to her about her family and what they would expect/ Support wise/ and She says she will put money back to them from her own pocket when she gets job over here.
    Why would you want to convert if you are not religious?
    A recipe for disaster IMO
    Almost all Filipinos will try to help their family financially if they can.

    My wife and I send money regularly to her family even though my wife does not earn anymore.
    My wife does work very hard looking after our baby though.
    A lot of husbands do help to support the family of the wife.
    It is important to remember the closeness of the Filipino family and our money can help a lot.

    There can also be problems that come from sending money, it all depends on how your girfriend/fiancee/wife, her family and you sort this out.


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    INC,you have to regularly put your tithe (10% of your income) to the INC, in the church they got their attendance sheets and you're name be checked if you attend the service. Thursdays and Sundays are the biblical services.
    My Friends who are in solidarity with the INC, and they are very religious/pious in praying So if you want to be convert to them, you'll have to attend a number of religious services before they will confer you and allows you to get married to an INC. Don't miss the service


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Why would you want to convert if you are not religious?
    sort this out.

    You know something your right...
    Last edited by AdamB; 28th December 2010 at 01:00. Reason: Head not on corrctly


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    From what I understand, Adam ... having seen the fancy edifices the 'Iglesia ni Cristo' religion owns in Mindanao alone ... it seems its followers are "not short of a bob or two"!! (Being a Glaswegian, I daresay you'll be familiar with the expression I've used!) And - if I'm not mistaken - the reason for the sect's [apparent] wealth can be traced to certain political factions with a vested interest in its survival - plus adherents being obliged to regularly contribute a sizeable proportion of their disposable income towards its upkeep.

    So I would think very carefully about what you might be letting yourself in for ...


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    After suggesting i dont want to change my views etc.

    She vanished off watching dvd.

    This aint happening

    Ian, your correct mate never works out with 1st one. And i even did the whole fbook thing and everything else to see what she like.

    Most annoying, where is respect, surely if you went online speak someone your interested in you would spaek with them not put dvd on....

    Not impressed> Maybe this belong's in rant's!!
    Last edited by AdamB; 28th December 2010 at 01:07. Reason: spelling


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    Arthur thanks, Shame really i thought we connected.

    But i'm walking away from this 1


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    You know something your right...
    Hi AdamB, in my post "sort this out" was referring to financial matters by the way.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    So I would think very carefully about what you might be letting yourself in for ...
    There again ... I wouldn't want to come between you and what could otherwise turn out to be a potentially promising relationship. But I'd strongly recommend having a serious discussion about it with this lass before committing yourself!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    Arthur thanks, Shame really i thought we connected.

    But i'm walking away from this 1
    "walk your way" over to the Phils one day AdamB, but be prepared for lots of alluring smiles (and not just from the "boys" ).
    The girls/ladies/women are hard to resist as many on here will testify to


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    looks like its over

    btw what was the dvd she was going to watch
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindanao View Post
    INC,you have to regularly put your tithe (10% of your income) to the INC, in the church they got their attendance sheets and you're name be checked if you attend the service. Thursdays and Sundays are the biblical services.
    My Friends who are in solidarity with the INC, and they are very religious/pious in praying So if you want to be convert to them, you'll have to attend a number of religious services before they will confer you and allows you to get married to an INC. Don't miss the service
    Correct !

    Thankfully the ex was an atheist like me....but later converted to an adulterer.


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    Aposhark,

    it's my fault i never removed the get this sorted out. It's ok if i had been you i would of thrown that up there...

    Arthur some thing's are meant to be and others well arent.

    Yeah i was planning on heading over in may...

    It was some korean film...


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    "love me for what i am" so Adam if your lady seriously loves you, she will accept your religious views whatever it is and not try to make you out of what you don't wanna be.

    give it a time


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    Arthur some thing's are meant to be and others well arent.
    ... que sera sera!


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    It seems more to do with her parents views and no blessing. she seems to think some dodgy omen will come upon her. I'm not one to disrespect belief's but> Sounds more like brain wash


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    what i know about INC is that if one opted to marry someone outside their religion and that someone doesn't want to be converted, the son/daughter is usually disowned (not sure if i'm using the right term) by the family..most people in the INC are that dedicated to their religion..my elder sis (a Catholic) had an ex bf who's INC and she even started the process of converting..but since the religion and the ex bf was so strict (she wasn't allowed to go to parties, no xmas celebration, she must be well behave all the time, etc), my sis felt she was being choked to death and can't be herself anymore..mind you the guy was really nice but my sis can't take the strictness of everything that is mostly referred to the religion..so she broke up with the guy..


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    I don't know a lot about INC
    Only what I have been told after asking questions having seen many of their churches in the Philippines (they are quite striking and all look the same)
    I have read all the replies to your thread and confirm that they are in line with I have learned.
    My advice would be to ask yourself WHY consider such a lifestyle change, and could you sustain it given your own beliefs and background.
    Given that you are not serious about religion I would doubt you could succesfully enter such a world.
    If you feel you want to know more why not ask your g/f.

    No offence intended.
    Just my opinion


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    the son/daughter is usually disowned (not sure if i'm using the right term) by the family.
    commonly term as "tiwalag sa iglesia"

    My college friend , a roamn catholic before was converted to INC, prior to their marriage. Though its an option for her to convince the husband now to get away from INC, the husbands family is giving her hassle, so she yield. Well, today , she only complains of the regular attendance to the church that sometimes gets way with her work schedules


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    tiwalag sa iglesia
    Break away from iglesia?I am going over that way later,theres a KFC opposite the HQ,if there are any pinays ouitside(and usually there are quite a number)I will ask for some literature may naa ka ba libro parte sa simbahan?That will make them gimmee some I am sure



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    Quote Originally Posted by mindanao View Post
    in the church they got their attendance sheets and you're name be checked if you attend the service.
    That's a bit extreme!

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    After suggesting i dont want to change my views etc.

    She vanished off watching dvd.

    This aint happening

    Ian, your correct mate never works out with 1st one. And i even did the whole fbook thing and everything else to see what she like.

    Most annoying, where is respect, surely if you went online speak someone your interested in you would spaek with them not put dvd on....

    Not impressed> Maybe this belong's in rant's!!
    It's obvious that she doesn't respect your wishes. Get out while you can is my advice!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamB View Post
    Hi, All apparently i need to convert to this church/religion/

    Now i've just told her truthfully that i'm not religious and that i would possibly convert.

    I have told her that i would go to church with her and take part but im only there to support her!!!



    I've also spoken to her about her family and what they would expect/ Support wise/ and She says she will put money back to them from her own pocket when she gets job over here.
    im not and have never been religious, my wife is mildly religious and like to visit church once a week, usually a sunday, i try to go when not busy, thats it for me,,, like yourself its support and a small price to pay for the happines she brings me


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    Spoke with her, she to afraid of family,
    I'll tell her to night that i want to just be friend's and that i hope she find's someone with the same high beliefs she has.

    If she does not want to talk i'll wish her the best in life and for future.

    Tomboo
    That's exactly it Support,


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